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Sam Ringgold

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That Ringgold was the first officer to die in the Mexican-American War is popularily believed, but not true. Maj. Jacob Brown died of wounds received at Fr. Texas earlier and Gen. Zachary Taylor's after-action report lists 3 other officers who died outright during the battle. That would make Ringgod at least the fourth officer to die in the MAW, not the first.

68.97.15.19 18:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Dr Dan Lawrence[reply]

If you can cite a source for that, please add that information to the article. It's still worth noting in the article that he was believed to have been the first. I see that you aren't a regular editor at Wikipedia. If you feel more comfortable just putting the information on the talk page (again, citing the source), I'd be happy to help by putting the information into the article with a Wikipedia footnote (although it isn't hard to do). Thanks. Noroton 22:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

song "The death of Ringgold"

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If there is anyway to get an audio of that song pasted into the article, I think it would add to the piece.

I found a sample...

http://www.pbs.org/cgi-registry/mediaplayer/videoplayer.cgi?playeraddress=videoplayer.cgi;media=%2Fkera%2Fusmexicanwar%2FSongs_2_Dial_Up_Stream_36.rm%2C%2Fkera%2Fusmexicanwar%2FSongs_2_DSL_Stream_220.rm;title=Patriotic%20songs%20and%20the%20%26ldquo%3Bromance%26rdquo%3B%20of%20war;playertemplate=%2Fkera%2Fusmexicanwar%2Fincl%2Fvideo_template.html;description=Sheet%20music%20and%20patriotic%20songs%20like%20%93The%20Death%20of%20Ringgold%94%20sweep%20the%20U.S.%2C%20inspiring%20dreams%20of%20heroism%20among%20many%20young%20men%20who%20will%20later%20volunteer%20to%20join%20the%20war%20effort.

Keep listening, it's in there. But you must get through the narration at the beginning. And it's an incomplete snatch of the tune. But it's all I could come up with. But surely there are far cleverer than I out there!

Pb8bije6a7b6a3w (talk) 05:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Father of Modern Artillery

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Is there a source for him being called the father of modern artillery? I had always heard this in reference to Gustavus Adolphus and didn't see any sources in the article to back this up.Sheriffjt (talk) 20:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, one illustrative of the problem with "father" and "modern" in such usage. Modern? 1600s vs. 1800s is a long time and lots of "moderns" to cover. There can be a citable source for him being called that, but there are for a number of other "fathers" of major innovations as well spread over the centuries between good old Gustav II Adolf and his real innovation in the use of field guns and today's artillery. For fun, look at all the people a Google search on "father of modern artillery" turns up. Note Jean-Baptiste Vaquette de Gribeauval among others in that list. I guess Gustav gets a higher rating with "Father of Modern Warfare" as noted in his article here as his innovations went beyond artillery. Call it a pitfall of the short view of military history and tendency to attach neat little tags to complex subjects. Palmeira (talk) 21:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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