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Reviewer: Oltrepier (talk · contribs) 16:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]


I'm taking over this review: this is my first one, and I hope I'll do everything right. Still, the article already looks in good shape, so I'm not too worried. Let's take a closer look! Oltrepier (talk) 16:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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.===Comments=== Right, here are my suggestions!

– First, I think the leading phrase could be re-structured a bit, like this:

"A youth product of Chelsea and Juventus, Iling-Junior made his debut for Juventus U23 in the 2021–22 season, while reaching the UEFA Youth League semi-finals with the club's under-19 squad. He was then promoted to the first team, having made his debut in December 2022. [Enter] Iling-Junior has represented England at various youth international levels, having won a UEFA European Under-19 Championship in 2022."

 Done

– According to this interview, he started playing football at the age of four: plus, he decided to join Juventus after rejecting a scholarship deal, which is commonly offered to under-18 players by professional clubs in the UK. You can add that, too, if you'd like to.

 Done

I also think it would be clearer to write "attracting the interest from various high-profile European clubs", without specifying too much.

 Not done, then they could put the [by whom?] template.

– "Triennial" should be replaced with "three-year", in my opinion.

 Done, it's just my passion for English words coming from Latin or Greek.

– The Guardian's mention might fit more in the "Style of play" section, or even as the last line of the page's introduction.

 Not done, it does not at all! I forgot to say this at Valentin Carboni.

– The Mulazzi mention isn't so necessary in that context, to be honest.

 Not done, not so unncessary either.

– I don't know if the phrase starting with "Prior to his first-team debut [...]" is really necessary, either: that data is already available through the statistics, and adding another reminder could be too redundant and confusing.

 Not done, I've added the info after his first-team promotion, not unnecessary.

– "with Juventus trailing 4–1" is a surplus, as well: I would just add "as Juventus eventually faced a 4–3 loss" at the end of the following phrase.

 Not done, the fact he was about to save Allegri's ass is notable.

– Was it a "blunt trauma" or a "sprain trauma"? Just to clarify.

 Done, sprain, clarified.

– "On 19 December, Iling-Junior renewed his contract with Juventus until 2025 and was subsequently promoted to the first team."

 Done

– The Bonatti mention doesn't look so useful to me...

 Not done, style of play also talks on how coaches exploited him.

– Finally, here are some more sources you might add to the page (aside of the one I already included): The official transfer report by Juventus; one more source about the Youth League achievements; a match report for his first-team debut against Empoli; one for his Champions League debut.

Well, that's all for now. Let me know what do you think about it! Oltrepier (talk) 16:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oltrepier,  Done. Dr Salvus 00:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr Salvus Alright, I just took some time to make a few more adjustments by myself, but thank you for your fixes.
The only issue I've got left with the article is that it could be even more focused: that's why I originally pointed out at some of your "fringe" mentions, like the one about Mulazzi, because I thought they would be kind of a distraction from the main topic (which is, of course, the career of Iling-Junior himself). Still, the rest looks pretty fine to me.
However, since it's my first review and I want to make sure I haven't missed anything, I think I could use a second opinion. An extra pair of eyes always helps... Oltrepier (talk) 14:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I think the article is ready to get promoted now.
Congratulations! Oltrepier (talk) 09:36, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]