Talk:Same-sex marriage in Cuba

This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBTQ-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.LGBTQ+ studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesLGBTQ+ studies articles

Cuba

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cuba, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Cuba related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CubaWikipedia:WikiProject CubaTemplate:WikiProject CubaCuba articles

???

This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Cuba task list:

Task list

New article announcements:
Requests: Ambrosio Cave, Calero Cave, Centella Cave, Cuba and the United Nations, Cuevas de Punta del Este, Cura Cave, Patana Cave, Pluma Cave
Stubs: Dollar store (Cuba)
Verify: History of Cuba, Fulgencio Batista
Update: Nochebuena
NPOV: Armando Valladares, Delfín Fernández, History of Cuba
Copyedit: Armando Peraza, Bay of Pigs Invasion, Fabio Grobart, Julio Antonio Mella
Cleanup: Abelardo Colomé Ibarra, Antonio Maceo Grajales, Bay of Pigs Invasion, History of Cuba, List of Cubans, Máximo Gómez, War against the Bandits
Style: Fidel Castro
Expand: Cuba–Soviet Union relations, Baseball in Cuba, Religion in Cuba, Havana's International Book Fair, Cuba–Venezuela relations, Antonio Sánchez de Bustamante y Sirven

Current status?

As of 2009, have there been any recent updates since 2007? VoodooIsland (talk) 04:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Current Status? again

As of 2013, has there been any updates since 2013? anamedperson (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage Equality?

Immediately into effect? If not, when does it?Naraht (talk) 15:30, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"the first of the former Eastern Bloc (except East Germany and Slovenia)"

I'm having a disagreement with another editor regarding wording in this article. I do not want to start an edit war, so am seeking discussion here on this talk page.

I acknowledge my first edit had fact issues and my second edit was wordy. However, I believe the current text is ambiguous and not accurate, and needs to be replaced with clearer, more accurate wording.

Here is the current wording which I would like to edit, text only, emphasis added:

Cuba was the first independent nation in the Caribbean, the eighth country in Latin America, the first communist state, the first of the former Eastern Bloc (excluding East Germany and Slovenia), and the 32nd country worldwide to legalize same-sex marriage.

I propose the following text, which adds the word "possibly":

Cuba was the first independent nation in the Caribbean, the eighth country in Latin America, the first communist state, the first of the former Eastern Bloc (possibly excluding East Germany and Slovenia), and the 32nd country worldwide to legalize same-sex marriage.

or replacing "excluding" with "unless one counts" or something similar:

Cuba was the first independent nation in the Caribbean, the eighth country in Latin America, the first communist state, the first of the former Eastern Bloc (unless one counts East Germany and Slovenia), and the 32nd country worldwide to legalize same-sex marriage.

A third option would be to completely remove the phrase concerning the Eastern Bloc:

Cuba was the first independent nation in the Caribbean, the eighth country in Latin America, the first communist state, and the 32nd country worldwide to legalize same-sex marriage.

Justifications:

Is Cuba the first or not? (This was my first reaction to reading the current text, and is what prompted my first edit.)

If East Germany is not a country, then why is it mentioned here?

If Slovenia is not agreed upon to be a former Eastern Bloc country, then why is it mentioned here?

Use of the word "excluding" without qualification implies to me agreement that East Germany and Slovenia count as former Eastern Bloc countries which also had same-sex marriage before Cuba and therefore Cuba was not first, which makes the use of the word "first" incorrect in "first of the former Eastern Bloc".

Relevant diffs, from oldest to newest:

Diff of my first edit

Diff of the first reversion with comment "East Germany doesn’t exist anymore, and but for debate whether Slovenia as part of Yugoslavia was part of the Eastern Bloc"

Diff of my second edit

Diff of the second reversion with comment "MOS:PUNCT, and really just easier and less wordy this way"

Thisisnotatest (talk) 06:31, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think the best would be the third option! Let’s just the remove it. Honestly, it doesn’t bring much in my opinion. Panda2018 0 (talk) 13:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and done! Thisisnotatest (talk) 01:29, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]