Talk:Sally (Flight of the Conchords)/GA1
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Reviewer: Grapple X (talk · contribs) 03:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose quality:
- "Jemaine falls for, (and subsequently, begins dating), Sally - Bret's former girlfriend" -> Ditch the brackets, the commas are enough here. There's also a few hyphens being used when dashes (spaced ens or unspaced ems) should be used.
There's "Jemaine" and "Jermaine" used here (infobox caption, for instance), I'm assuming the former is correct as it's the actual dude's name.
"most notably "Robots," and "Not Crying," and "Most Beautiful Girl (In the Room)"" -> the commas here shouldn't be inside quotes as they aren't part of the song titles; and you could lose that first "and".
"The latter was later nominated for a Outstanding Original Music And Lyrics Emmy award" -> "an Outstanding"; but I'd probably reverse that a little and have "an Emmy award for Outstanding Music and Lyrics".
I'd include links to Jemaine Clement and Bret McKenzie in the plot section; though I'm not too sure how—are they essentially playing themselves or is it just a Fresh Prince thing where the names are the only connection? If it's the former just link the characters to the articles, if it's the latter then do it as "Bret (Bret McKenzie), for instance.
Lose the links in "cardboard robot", pairing two common terms like this makes it seem like it's one link to something more specific (cardboard robot in this case, which I would probably have abandoned this review to read...)
Would also be worth listing an actor for Mel (especially since it's one of those unisex names).
Probably worth noting early in the Production section that the band predates the series; I'd thought it was a Spinal Tap thing where they'd done the show first and then did some albums off the back of that.
"The episode contain several cultural references" -> "contains".
I'd move the mention of Judah Friedlander's cameo away from the preceding sentence, as it's not exactly a "cultural reference".
"This song was voted #60" -> I'd spell out "number sixty" here, or even just "number 60".
There's a few more instances here of punctuation placed in song titles when it shouldn't; and a repeat of the above-mentioned Emmy thing.
"negated any reason the to buy cable to watch the show." -> Sounds a little colloquial, perhaps "the availability of the band's music on video sites like YouTube meant that watching the series was not worth the cost of a cable subscription".
- "Jemaine falls for, (and subsequently, begins dating), Sally - Bret's former girlfriend" -> Ditch the brackets, the commas are enough here. There's also a few hyphens being used when dashes (spaced ens or unspaced ems) should be used.
- B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
- MOS is fine.
- A. Prose quality:
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources:
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
- C. No original research:
- Is there a secondary source that could supplement ref 2?
I'm also not really comfortable with the cultural references just being sourced to the episode itself. There seems to be a good amount of stuff on The AV Club (here too) about the duo, something there might help you source this stuff to a secondary source.
Are there authors for refs 11 and 12? Would be worth adding.
Ref 3 could be formatted using {{cite episode}} without asides like "Documentary broadcast on TV3 (New Zealand)" (just use the|network=field) instead).
- Is there a secondary source that could supplement ref 2?
- A. References to sources:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
- Seems alright. Hard for me to judge if too much weight is given to the music or not without knowing how much of the episode is actually musical performance but I'm assuming it's fine.
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Grand.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- Grand.
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
- Not sure the rationale for File:Conchords 101 Sally.jpg is enough; I'm also wondering if it's even needed. I think the cardboard robot picture works better as an illustration of the episode (I know it's from a concert but my assumption is that those costumes are the same, so we essentially cheat and get a free "screenshot" here).
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- I think this one's going to take a fair heft of work, to be honest. The sourcing seems to be very primary-based, though those primary sources can stay if something secondary could be found to bolster them; they don't need to be outright replaced. If you give me a ping about it tomorrow I'll check HighBeam for anything I can find on this to help out, in the meantime there's some prose fixes to be seen to and maybe something from those AV Club links might help too. Going to fire this on hold for now then. GRAPPLE X 05:28, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Pass or Fail:
- OK, I did quite a bit of work on this bad boy. Fixed the prose issues and backup and/or removed the primary sources. I also added some dates to articles and generally just spiffed up the article. Tell me what you think.--Gen. Quon (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Definitely looking a lot better now. I think we're good to go with this one. Well done! GRAPPLE X 20:31, 19 May 2012 (UTC)