Talk:Salisbury/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Market

I've expanded the section on the market and fair. However, it previously contained the statement

annual funfair (the Sloe Fair) in October

Can anyone confirm whether this is true? Sloe Fair actually appears to be in Chichester, West Sussex. We might also need a reference for the statement that the fair can be moved to the Cathedral Close. -- Solipsist 14:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Call me old fashioned, but when I pronounce "Salisbury" I don't say Saulsbree, but Saulsb-uhree. Only the first half of the word isn't pronounced the way it's written.

Don't you know it's Zohzbree? --Gareth Hughes 16:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I have to say, I've lived in Salisbury for 28 years and I've never heard it called Zohzbree before! Sounds like a Bristolian version of the word. They have a tendancy to skip L's. Mallanox 04:56 06 May 2006

Ancient capital of Wessex

There appears to have been more than one possible "ancient capital of Wessex" (if there even was such a thing)- a google search reveals Chard, Wantage, Wilton, Somerton and Winchester are all contenders for the title. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 11:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

On further examination it appeass many of these claims are bogus. Wilton was the capital of 'Wiltunscire' (Wiltshire), an area within Wessex and the Somerton article states "reputedly the capital of the Kingdom of Wessex from 871 to 901 AD, although this is not supported by modern research" and the Chard article states "headquarters of Cerdic, the first King of Wessex", saying nothing about "capital". Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 11:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I've removed this completely as it's not relevant to Salisbury and can be debated at the Wilton article if required. Mallanox 00:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

NPOV?

I was not sure what to label this under, hence the title.

It seems to me that the whole article is somewhat "generous" with the facts, particulary the 'Leisure' section. For example:

"Salisbury has many unique shops in the city centre"

Such as?

"A huge variety of restaurants and pubs"

Again, what does this refer to? Pizza Express? Every town/city in the country has one. The variety of restaurants in Salisbury is appauling!

I could go on, as there are other things as well, but all I am merely asking is if the language could be made more NPOV, so that it doesn't read like tourist brochure.Awacs 09:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

The trouble is, anything about leisure activities is difficult to put across without superlatives or they sound dull and don't read very well. Many towns across the South were surveyed, the results of which were on the BBC website, for the variety and uniqueness of shops. Salisbury scored very well for having unique shops. You just have to wander around to see them. I guess you're a local to Salisbury hence your vocality on the subject, open your yellow pages and see how many pubs and restaurants Salisbury has. This is a wiki site, if you don't like something, change it. I wrote a good chunk of it, I know it's not perfect, if you can improve it then everyone benefits. Mallanox 18:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess its a case of Avoid Weasel Words. Whilst what Mallanox says may be true, if the statement about the variety of shops is based on a BBC survey, it is much more solid to phrase it as such, and add a source reference. Something like,

According to a BBC survey in 2006 [http://www.bbc.co.uk/somearticle.html], Salisbury was found to have a greater variety and uniqueness of shops compared to other towns in Wiltshire.

On a related note, some fifteen years ago, I recall passing through Carlisle one evening in the hope of find a PizzaExpress on my way back from Scotland. Unfortunately, at the time, PizzaExpress hadn't spread much further north than Manchester. It looks like they have one now mind you.... -- Solipsist 19:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirect

This redirect should point to the UK one. Wizzy…☎ 16:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

This redirect should point to Harare. A national capital or minor UK city?--Thomas.macmillan 16:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Continue the discussion at Talk:Salisbury to keep it in one place. Graham87 16:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The article Salisbury is now about the city in the United Kingdom. I have move-protected it so consensus must be properly achieved first before this page is moved. Graham87 03:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Tourists, etc.

If there is some way to verify that many residents are annoyed by new age tourists and that they leave a lot of garbage, like a newpaper article, then that can be referenced and included as a fact, otherwise, that sentence is totally POV and needs to be deleted. A phrase like "due to the age and mysticism of the city" is not only dopey, but completely POV, and an exhibition of the author's ignorance of what the word "mysticism" actually means. This stuff is not worth a rv war. Josh 14:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

There is a way to verify it. I will try to find a newspaper article. Salisbury is one of the original cities of England, it's age is beyond any accurate measure. OK, if you don't like the word mysticism, fine, change it but please do not delete real verifiable facts as well. Also, read WP:CIVIL, I think you'll find calling me ignorant and dopey is pretty uncivil. There's nothing like logging onto Wikipedia after a day's work and being insulted. Mallanox 23:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Stonehenge

There was a complete lack of mention of Stonehenge in this article, I have added a small addition to the economy section. Fosnez 19:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

History

I have added more information about events occuring around the Close. I can name my sources though I am not sure where to most appropriately put them. Please can a more experienced wikipedian advise? Also I'm amazed that Salisbury's twin cities weren't mentioned. Mallanox 04:52, 06 May 2006

Sister Cities

I thing that a section on the sister cities of Salisbury should be added to the article. I know that Salisbury, Maryland in the United States is a sister city of Salisbury, England.162.83.62.21 03:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it could be briefly mentioned in the introduction. The twin cities are. 81.132.102.160 (talk) 17:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Images

Art

Eh? I don't know much about art, but I do know that Constable wasn't an impressionist...

Quite right - now fixed. -- Solipsist 14:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

I'm having some trouble with the pictures - there's too many of them, and huge white spaces keep appearing. I've put a couple of pictures in a gallery, but it doesn't look right. Please help! Thelb⁴ 07:54, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Hope that's better. Part of the problem is that two of the pictures are taller than average. Its now generally prefered to avoid using specific pixel widths for pictures, so that user preferences can determine the rendered picture size. However, this tends to make portrait pictures too large.

Of course the real problem is the size of the Infobox... -- Solipsist 13:40, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's much better now. Thanks! Thelb⁴ 18:31, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

The article says that a problem for the people of Salisbury is the lkack of a motorway linking Southampton and Bristol. Where is the evidence that the majority of Salisburys residents want a motorway to be built around their city? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.30.105 (talk) 19:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Geograpy

The article says the lack of a motorway causes a problem for a people of Salisbury. I wonder where the evidence for this is? Have most people in Salisbury voted for a motorway ? Many people in Salisbury were horrified by the idea of the proposed and cancelled ring road let alone a motorway. I think this comment reflects the view of the author more than a realistic appraisal of the wishes of the people of Salisbury, it seems to me to be no different than saying the people of Salisbury suffer from the lack of an international airport or from any other facility they do not have living in a small city in a predominantly rural area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.30.105 (talk) 20:00, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Areas within and around Salisbury.

What is this section about? It contains names that have little to do with Salisbury (eg Solstice Park) and it omits several areas. I can't find another town or city with a similar list. It is hard to understand what its purpose is. I propose it is deleted unless a plausible reason can be agreed for its retention. Richard Avery (talk) 22:56, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, kill it. One thing that might be useful to replace it is the {{Geographic location}} template - an example of which (for Cheddar in Somerset) is given below. --Bob Re-born (talk) 00:20, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree with that idea too. Alzarian16 (talk) 00:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)