Talk:Saint-Paul Asylum, Saint-Rémy (Van Gogh series)

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Ward in Arles

Is the ward in Arles painting from his hospital stay in Arles? Or the one in Saint-Remy? (I've sometimes seen the hospital referred to as in Arles, so it isn't an incredibly straightforward question.)

When I started researching his letters for paintings for this article van Gogh said to his sister on April 30, while in Arles and with plans to go to Saint-Remy that he was painting a picture of a ward: "Notwithstanding this I am working, and have just finished two pictures of the hospital, one of a ward, a very long ward, with rows of beds with white curtains, in which some figures of patients are moving. The walls, the ceiling with big beams, all in white, lilac-white or green-white. Here and there a window with a pink or bright green curtain. The floor paved with red bricks. At the end a door with a crucifix over it. It is all very, very simple. And then, as a pendant, the inner court. It is an arcaded gallery like those one finds in Arab buildings, all white-washed. In front of those galleries an antique garden with a pond in the middle, and eight flower beds, forget-me-nots, Christmas roses, anemones, ranunculus, wallflowers, daisies, and so on. And under the gallery orange trees and oleander."

Thanks so much!--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:21, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update, there's also a letter from Saint-Remy in October where he says he's working on painting a ward.--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:23, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure now from his letters and the following book that the ward is of the hospital in Arles, but it sounds like he finished the painting at Saint-Remy. The Medicine in Art book p. 158 calls out this as a ward in Arles. I greatly appreciate the other additional images!! I anyone disagrees, though, let me know and I'll pop it back in.--CaroleHenson (talk)

Sounds like he painted it - the painting of the ward - in two separate places. Arles and then Saint-Remy...Modernist (talk) 03:37, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but in both cases it sounds like the ward in Arles. At least that's the way I read it. What do you think?--CaroleHenson (talk) 05:01, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Leave the image out until there is a definitive identification tying it to Saint-Remy...Modernist (talk) 05:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, as I continue researching for info for the article over the next several days, I may stumble upon it. Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 06:23, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Garden of the Hospital in Arles

Hi Carole, this one too - like the hospital ward in Arles is the wrong place, and we probably should have both images in a Hospital in Arles section [1]...

Great, thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't look like the romanesque cloister at St-Remy to me! --PL (talk) 15:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]