Talk:Saijiki

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"A list of the annual events"

Is there any evidence of saijiki meaning this in English usage? As far as I'm aware, the only usage in English is to refer to a list of kigo. Accordingly, I propose to delete the bullet

"A list of the annual events"

and merge the lead and next section. Is there any reason not to? --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 23:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense to me. How about also merging with List of kigo? Tesspub (talk) 12:49, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. Wikipedia's "List of..." articles are, as far as I'm aware, intended to be complete lists, and List of kigo can hardly hope to be this, so it seems the justification for that article's existence is questionable. See Talk:List_of_kigo#Scope_of_this_article.3F for a cursory discussion.
If this article were to be merged, it would make more sense to merge it with Kigo, but it seems fairer to give the article a chance to develop first. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 14:32, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for improving this article. Overall it looks like an excellent start to me. I had created this article because there was no English equivalent of the Japanese article "歳時記" (Saijiki) and I did not know how to change the redirection to "List of Kigo" from that Japanese article. As for the "List of the annual events", I will sometime in the future will try to add a sentence about the origin of this "Saijiki" word related to the Chinese document (now deleted in the main text) in which sense the Japanese people now usually use it because there aren't many haiku poets nowadays... Yoshi Canopus (talk) 01:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Yoshi. That sounds like a good way to incorporate the earlier meaning. The reason I deleted that part was that this article should be about the use of the term saijiki in English, rather than the meaning of the the Japanese word (this not being a dictionary). --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 09:04, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]