Talk:Sagi Hartov

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Update of titles

Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. See below

Hello everyone,

I am employed by Global University Systems (GUS) - the company that owns several institutions Sagi Hartov works for. I would like to extend a hand to the Wikipedia community in an effort to help improve this page and ensure that relevant, noteworthy and correct (sourced) information is present. My Conflict of Interest is that I am an employee of GUS - I seek to be fully compliant with the COI policies and hope to work with all editors for the improvement of the page. Following making my edit suggestions - I shall declare my COI on the WP:COIN page.

The edit I am requesting is for the inclusion of several titles of Mr Hartov's to the the page.

I am asking for the following to be included:

Managing Director of Berlin School of Business and Innovation (BSBI) - currently just says "Director". Principle of Creative Arts for Global University Systems (GUS) A Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts Previously a Visiting-Professor at London Academy of Music

All these titles can be sourced in the following article: https://poetsandquants.com/2018/07/13/new-b-school-born-in-berlin/

I appreciate all guidance and feedback from editors.

With thanks - MrAttempt (talk) 10:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have stated in the lead paragraph that "He also serves as principal of creative arts for Global University Systems, executive dean and academic director at London College of Contemporary Arts, and managing director of Berlin School of Business and Innovation". Being a fellow of the RSA, even if verifiable by a totally independent source which Poets & Quants is not (it simply regurgitates a BSBI a press release) is not a particular distinction at all. I've also removed some false claims as to his teaching career. Frankly, I am inclined to nominate this article for deletion. He passes neither the General Notability Guideline, nor the alternative criteria for musicians or academics. This article was created and edited by User:Chernenkaya and his sockpuppets, who did nothing on Wikipedia but attempt to publicize LSBF Group (owned by Global University Systems). Voceditenore (talk) 11:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm inclined to agree, Voceditenore, notability is questionable at best. Clearly I didn't examine some of the claims here with nearly enough attention in 2013 – good catch on the Rostropovich contest! How many other dubious claims are there in the page, I wonder? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've gone through this and corrected quite a few more factual errors and exaggerations. Virtually everything about his career as a cellist is sourced to his autobiographies in various concert announcements and some of them are clearly spurious claims like being a finalist in the Rostropovich Competition. I have completely removed the claim that he played with Rostropovich. I can find no reliable source whatsover for that and I've fact-tagged quite a few more assertions. Voceditenore (talk) 14:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note that he also claims to be a Fellow of the Royal Academy of Music (FRAM) in some of his self-authored biographies. According to the RAM official website, he is not which leads me to question most of the assertions in these biographies. Voceditenore (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Voceditenore - thank you for all your efforts in correcting and improving the page. Would you please also correct the title of "Academic Director" to "Managing Director" for London College of Contemporary Arts? This can be sourced by the college's own website: https://www.lcca.org.uk/about-us/our-people/ With thanks - MrAttempt (talk) 14:36, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the title to managing director, for what it's worth. Voceditenore (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]