Talk:Saab 29 Tunnan

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There's no kinship between the Saab 29 and any aircraft outside the Saab line so why are the Ta 183 and P.1101/X-5 listed as "Related development"? Besides from coincidental similarities in appearance, there is no relationship between these aircraft types so I see no reason to mention them in the same breath. Per80 (talk) 01:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Survivors

The survivors list can be expanded with several aircraft since there are over 30 still in existence. Perhaps it's a good idea to break out the list into it's own sub-page as well? Per80 (talk) 00:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Both images are from the same angle. Needed: an image that shows the aircraft from the front (IIRC, the nose is quite distinctive.) Muad 15:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After three years, your wish is finally granted. :)
I replaced two of the pictures in the article with my own photos - the infobox image to show the Tunnan in flight, and one of the museum pictures with a shot straight from the front. Gnolam (talk) 01:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Swept-back wings

This sentence: "The J 29 was the first production fighter with a swept-back wing" is mirrored in the Swedish article where it states that it was the first production fighter outside Germany with swept-back wings. Either way, is this really the case? I thought the F-86 Sabre and MiG-15 were earlier both in terms of maiden flights and introduction to service? Grumpy444grumpy 16:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since the wording on the page is changed to "one of the first" (actually being the third if comparing maiden flight and operational entry of the Tunnan,Sabre and MiG-15), I'm removing the unsourced statements warning. T96 grh 12:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why Germany is mentioned in the Swedish article is that the very first jet fighter, the Messerschmidt 262, also had swept wings and was thus the first in that category as well. Consequently, the Tunnan was the fourth overall and the third in the west, assuming that Nazi Germany is considered part of "Western Europe".--Death Bredon (talk) 18:00, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hermann Behrbohm - was not involved with Saab 29 Tunnan

The article states incorrectly (as in a few web-pages), and should be removed from this article

Among them were the engineer and aerodynamicist Hermann Behrbohm, who came to be part of Saab's core in the team around J29 and upcoming aircraft types.

The daughter-in-law Margareta Behrbohm referring to her husband (son of Hermann Behrbohm) immobilised 80+ years old Peter Behrbohm's memorial notes

"came to Saab 1951, not (as claimed) with Frid Wänström and the Messerschmitt drawings that Saab acquired in Switzerland in 1945 that laid the foundation for Saab 29 Tunnan. Had nothing to do with the purchase". Hermann Behrbohm were in 1945 after the US invasion he was unemployed father of a family with 4 children in Mering near Augsburg American zone of occupation. They had income from gifts from housed American officers, but he also worked a time in agriculture and forestry with nature payments for family food on the table. In the spring of 1946 he was recruited by BEE (French Aerodynamic Research and Development Institute, today a part of Deutsch-Französisches Forschungsinstitut Saint-Louis) with operations in Emmendingen and Weil am Rhein in French occupation zone in Germany. (Well, the family claim Hermann Behrbohm was not a thief. Nobody can prove he was a thief, were however not able to cross border travel to Basel Switzerland in immediate occupation situation 1945.)

However Hermann Behrbohm was the main mathematician for both Willy Messerschmitt (and for Alexander Lippisch) and as such he was most certainly doing the main maths on the Messerschmitt P.1101 that is very alike Saab 29 Tunnan. (The main mathematician made the algorithms and a huge staff of calculating engineers were doing the calculations with Slide rule before the computers Saab BESK 1954.) And certainly Hermann Behrbohm must have commented the Saab 29 after he joined the design team at Saab (to construct the Saab 35 Draken that was a continuation of the Alexander Lippisch Lippisch P.13a to what he also made the main maths for during IIWW).

--Zzalpha (talk) 01:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]