Talk:SMS Carola/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Manelolo (talk · contribs) 15:11, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

A solid article although borders on minutiae at points. My comments below, the US-PD tag seems to be the only substantial issue regarding the criteria. Merry Christmas! Manelolo (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

A-ok, pass! Manelolo (talk) 19:28, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Comments

• File:Kreuzerkorvette Carola 01.jpg apparently needs a US-PD tag. Could you doublecheck the licensing, publication dates etc. on that?
  • Good catch, {{PD-US}} should be fine
• I corrected typos and tweaked the article on my own, including trimming down a large number of the word then. See if you agree with my changes!
  • They look fine to me.
• "The ship's captain served as the squadron commander from 13 August to 10 November, as he was the most senior officer in the area in the absence of Deinhard. Carola departed for Bombay on 10 November for an overhaul; she arrived back in Zanzibar on 17 February 1890. By this time, the cruiser squadron had been disbanded, and the new unprotected cruisers Schwalbe and Sperber had arrived in East Africa to strengthen German forces in the colony. Carola's captain again served as the commander of naval operations on the ship's return." Vague on the captain part here, better to name out?
  • I don't have a first name, but I can add a rank and last name. He's not on the List of admirals of Germany, so he's likely not notable (which is why I didn't include him)
    • Ok! Most likely Herr Valette is not notable for his own article, but just seemed odd that he wasn't named if he anyways warrants a couple of mentions in the article.
• "From 2 January 1894 to 15 March, Carola operated with a reduced crew. She had to go into dry dock in Kiel for repairs to her engines in September that year. She again had a reduced crew from 12 November 1894 to mid-February 1895, and again from 13 December 1895 to the end of February 1896." Any reason indicated for the reduction?
  • Nothing is said specifically in the source, but I can tell you that the German Navy chronically suffered from shortages of crews. There's an interesting example from September 1910 - SMS Zähringen was decommissioned, her crew went to SMS Rheinland, which had lost most of her crew to man the new battlecruiser SMS Von der Tann. In all likelihood, the men taken from Carola were needed for something else, but that's just my hunch.
    • The cogs of war just keep rumbling, it seems. :)
• Any more page categories where the article could fit?
  • Added a couple. Thanks for reviewing the article! Parsecboy (talk) 18:48, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Summary

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

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