Talk:SEPTA City Transit Division surface routes/History by downtown streets

2nd and 3rd

• 5, early-present
• 25, early-1930
• 28, ?-1928
• Tioga (4), early

4th and 5th

• 9, by 1923-1956
• 50, by 1923-1955?
• 65, by 1923-1929?
• 57, 1955-present (now on 3rd and 4th)

4th and 8th (early)

• Norris & Susquehanna
• Indiana
• Chestnut Hill (23)
• Pelham
• Willow Grove

5th and 6th (early)

• Fox Chase (50)
• Franklinville
• Frankford-Berks (3)
• Frankford-Lehigh

6th and 7th

• 4, by 1923-1930
• 19, by 1923-1929
• 26, ?-1922
• 65, 1929?-1953

7th and 9th (early)

• Richmond
• McKean (9)
• Cambria

8th and 9th

• 47, by 1923-present (now on 7th and 8th; 47m on 8th and 9th)
• 51, by 1923-1929
• 61, by 1923-present (now on 7th and 11th)

10th and 11th

• 6, ?-1920
• 23, by 1923-present (now on 11th and 12th)
• 55, by 1923-by 1932
• Berks & Montgomery (3), early
• 10th & 11th (not continuing north), early

12th and 13th

• 3, by 1923-1929
• 20, by 1923-1957
• 27, ?-1922
• 53, by 1923-1929

12th and 16th (early)

• 12th & 16th

13th and 15th (early)

• 13th & 15th (20)
• Cumberland
• Wayne (53)
• Willow Grove

15th and 16th

• 2, by 1923-present (now on 16th and 17th)
• 24, by 1923-1929
• 48, by 1923-1956?

17th and 18th

• 21, by 1923-1956
• 32, by 1923-1957
• initially both combined into one

19th and 20th

• 16, by 1923-1929
• 17, by 1923-present
• 18, by 1932-1953
• 33, by 1923-present
• 36, by 1923-by 1932
• originally 16 or 33 and 17 combined into one

22nd and 23rd

• 7, by 1923-present (now on 21st and 22nd north of Market)
• 9, by 1923-1956
• 12, by 1923-present
• 18, by 1923-1953
• 36, by 1932-1950s? (moved to subway)
• 40, by 1923-by 1932 (how?)
• 44, by 1923-1929
• 48, 1956?-present (now on 21st and 22nd)
• Morris & Tasker, early

South Philly only

2/3 (ETCo)

• Frankford 2 & 3 (71): post-1911 Route 5

4/8 (PPRy)

• Dickinson (41)
• Indiana (53): post-1911 Route 19 (6/7)
• Chestnut Hill (58)

• post-1911 Route 9 (4/5)

5/6 (ETCo)

• Richmond 7 & 9 (4) southbound: didn't even enter downtown until 1905; post-1911 Route 25 (2/3)
• Fox Chase (54): didn't even enter downtown until 1900; post-1911 Route 50 (4/5)
• Frankford Berks 5 & 6 (72)
• Frankford Lehigh 5 & 6 (73)

• post-1911 Route 4 (6/7)

7/9 (PTCo)

• Richmond 7 & 9 (4) northbound: didn't even enter downtown until 1905; post-1911 Route 25 (2/3)
• McKean 7 & 9 (35)

• post-1911 Route 47 (8/9)

10/11 (ETCo)

• 10 & 11 (32): post-1911 Route 23

12/16 (ETCo/PTCo)

• 12 & 16 (1)

13/15 (PTCo)

• Cumberland (47): turned around at Locust until 1909; post-1911 Route 2 (15/16)
• 13 & 15 (48): post-1911 Route 20 (12/13)
• Wayne Ave (49): turned around at Locust until 1904; post-1911 Route 53 (12/13)

17/18 (PTCo)

• 17 & 18 (3): post-1911 Route 32

19/20 (PTCo)

• 19 & 20 (2): post-1911 Route 17

22/23 (PTCo)

• Morris & Tasker (39): post-1911 Route 7
• New post-1911 Route 18