Talk:Russkoye Znamya

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Yours truly,--Ludvikus 18:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Russkoe znamia

In libraries in the United States I could only identify the title by the spelling Russkoe znamia. But this work began with the Nov. 27, 1905 issue. No library has any issue before that date. And no library indicates that the work was previously known by the single word Znamya or Znamia.

This title, Russkoe znamia, is described by American libraries as a daily Newspaper (except Mondays and after holidays). This perioodical is also identified as an Organ of Soiuz russkago naroda. It is published in St. Petersburg, but the editor is one A. I. Dubrovin.

Apparently, this Newspaper has been Microfilmed in 1970 in 35 mm.

So the question remains -- where and what is the Znamya or Znamia in which the 1903 alleged edition in which the notorious Protocols of Zion was published!

Ludvikus 03:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary

The Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary writes [1] Знамя, с.-петербургская газета— ежедневная газета, издается в СПб. с 1902 г. Издатель-редактор П. А. Крушеван. Орган крайнего ретроградства и антисемитизма (Znamya, Saint Petersburg newspaper - daily newspaper published in Saint-Peterburg since 1902. The editor-in chief is Pavel Krushevan. Organ of the ultra-conservatism and anti-Semitism). The similar info is in the Krushevan's biography (links to the article). I guess the newspaper was renamed in 1905, it was a common practice of these years for the publications having difficulties with the Censors. Pravda was renamed quite a number of times abakharev 05:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cesare G. De Michelis on Znamja

Probably this periodical is historically most significant only because it allegedly published the first edition of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Cesare G. De Michelis, in the English 2004 edition of his The Non-Existent Manuscript, gives the following reference, on Page 408,

    "Programa zavoevanija mira evrejami."
    In Znamja 1,
    No. 190(28 August [10 September]): 2; 2,
    No. 191(29 August [11 September]): 2; 3,
    No. 192(30 August [12 September]): 2; 4,
    No. 193(31 August [13 September]): 1-2; 5,
    No. 194(1 [14] September): 1-2; 6,
    No. 195(2 [15] September): 1-2; 7,
    No. 196(3 [16] September): 2; 8,
    No. 197(4 [17] September): 2; 9,
    No. 200(7 [20] September): 2.

However, I have not been able to find this Newspaper in any library in the world whose Catalog is available on the Internet. Can anyone give an exact Catalog reference for this Newspapewr? Better still, can anyone identify any Library in the world which actually has a copy of it? By the way, Cesare G. De Michelis does not specify, on his Page 408, the Year in which these Nine (9) issues were allegedly published in August/September. Can anyone help in this Scholarly quest? Ludvikus 15:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other References

An editor has kindly provided the following Russian language refernces:

   * History of The Protocols (Russian)
   * Znamya Wikiznanie article (Russian)
   * Russkoye Znamya (Russian)
   * Krushevan's biography (Russian)

Can anyone have these four (4) interesting-looking items translated into English and have them available on Wikipedia??? Thank you.

Yours truly, Ludvikus 02:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Znamya or Znamia stll not located

Apparently no one (Wikipedian) has yet been able to locate this paper!!! Yours truly,Ludvikus 18:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've located the pertinent excerpts from this Newspaper in an Archive in the USA!!!

Will produce an image sometime soon.

Yours truly, --Ludvikus 18:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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