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On 20 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Soviet Russia. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Jetysui Governorate

I cannot find this even on a websearch - is there a better transliteration?

And should 'Sunzha Cossack district' be directed to Sunzhensky District, Republic of Ingushetia or is it 'a distinct historical entity'? Jackiespeel (talk) 11:48, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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"Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic (Q2305208)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic (Q2305208) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 17 § Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic (Q2305208) until a consensus is reached. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 08:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Government infobox

The current info box for the government is too simple and doesn't properly showcase the type of government in the rsfsr. Adding more details (like I previously did) would fix this issue WildRaptor777 (talk) 02:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:IBP, information is meant to be presented in a short format; if you compare the examples in the template documentation for former countries, that's consistent there. The article text exists to provide a more fulsome explanation. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can’t find what you’re talking about WildRaptor777 (talk) 00:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"information should be presented in a short format, wherever possible, and exclude unnecessary content" (MOS:IBP). Nikkimaria (talk) 05:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And having the info I provided isn’t unnecessary WildRaptor777 (talk) 15:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given that your proposal contains more detail than the actual article it's meant to be summarizing, that doesn't seem to be accurate. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn’t, don't lie now. It had a standard amount of info. It’s informative and sensible. The government was always the two forms listed as of right now. WildRaptor777 (talk) 14:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is listed as of right now is much more sensible than what you had proposed to list. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On my post above, I meant wasn’t btw. On to your post: it absolutely is not WildRaptor777 (talk) 02:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're certainly welcome to your opinion on that, but at this point your proposed approach hasn't attained consensus. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither has yours WildRaptor777 (talk) 15:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems, based on your talkpage, that Remsense and I are in agreement that your approach of "stuffing as much detail as possible" is problematic, and also generating a sea of blue (as you are doing elsewhere as well). Nikkimaria (talk) 00:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't “stuff as much detail as possible”, I put a normal amount of text that properly describes what the form of governments are. You and Remsense have the same problem: You both try to minimize and reduce as much as possible in a way that excludes too much detail and decreases article quality. WildRaptor777 (talk) 16:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What you're proposing is not a "normal amount of text" for this context, and is not consistent with the relevant guidelines. I'd suggest focusing your efforts on improvement of Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic#Government to reflect that level of detail. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is considering the long and changing history of the soviet government WildRaptor777 (talk) 02:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]