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Reviewer: Lampman (talk · contribs) 08:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No dab pages. Dead external links:

113: "Excuse Me Lady Gaga, Beyoncé's Back: 'Run The World (Girls)' Video Review" (leads to wrong page, I think)

This is a bit confusing; I think the same reference name ("yahoo") has been used for two different references. The dead one is called "Beyoncé's Billboard Music Awards Show Strikingly Similar To Year-Old Performance From Italian Singers", but it doesn't show up in the references at the bottom. Lampman (talk) 13:23, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not much to complain about here, just some minor nit-picking:

Lead:

"The song samples of "Pon de Floor" by Major Lazer..." – should it be "contains samples"?

Well, I think you do not know much about the singer (I am not criticizing you... I am trying to explain with simply honest and pure intentions). See her discography. Although this song performed quite well, it remain a flop by her standard. Actually if flopped because it sampled "Pon de Floor" in its entirety. The latter only has music, no vocals etc. And Beyonce sang over the music. Hmm, you understand? And it is because of all this drama that the song was not well received. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I never mentioned anything about flops, it was really just a question of language: is it not better to say "The song contains samples of..." than "The song samples of..."? Lampman (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lol I know (Didn't you see what I wrote in brackets)? It does not contain samples (noun). It samples (verb) the whole song. Listen to Pon de Floor and Run the World. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:03, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see, in that case I think it would be better to write ""Run the World" samples "Pon de Floor"" without using the word "of". Lampman (talk) 16:27, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Background and development:

You should probably make it clear that Nash and The-Dream is the same person, when it comes to the lists of writers/producers.

Chart performance:

More a question than a complaint: why did it chart so late in US compared to other markets?

Let me explain. If the charts of Billboard are released today, December 23, 2011... Billboard will published the charts saying Week ending January 5, 2012. Their charts are 13 days in advance. That's why I don't write a song debuted on a date... I have to say... For the week ending.... Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music video:

"The Gaga thing" – he seems to be referring to his directing the "Bad Romance" video, but here it appears as a bit of a non sequitur.

Of course not. He is talking about "Run the World" but he mentioned "Bad Romance" as it is one of his greatest work. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but in the interview this is clear. It says: "I hadn't done a video since 2009," he said, referring to the VMA-winning video for Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance."" Later in the interview, when he mentions "The Gaga thing", it is clear that this is what he's talking about. In the article there is no previous mention of "Bad Romance", so when he says "The Gaga thing", the reader has no idea what he's talking about. It should say something like: "director Francis Lawrence, who had previoulsy directed Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" video, discussed the music video:" Lampman (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's on;y now I understand what you have been asking for since the beginning. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"a barely sentient" – is he really using "sentient" as a noun here, or is there a noun missing?

That what the source says. And that's why I quote it. It is indeed awkward. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the original source says: "Beyoncé comes off like a barely sentient but cohesive and rational human being in real life." This makes "sentient" the adjective and "human being" the noun. The way you've cut the quote, "sentient" appears as a noun, which totally changes the meaning of the quote. Lampman (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remove "a", then I'm happy with it. Lampman (talk) 08:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Live performances:

Hmm, I don't understand. It is simply a televised show. It is very famous. I mean it was since it finished now. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm familiar with Oprah, I'm just confused by "the Winfrey". It's not common to put a definite article before someone's name, unless it's something like Tha Carter? Lampman (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]