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I did a move to a better name. Because there was no prior talk page use etc, I just cut, paste, redirected.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:25, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Rationale: I used a "son of" name because in this medieval period lots of people are known from only one record. Historians link those records in different ways. Where there is no leading consensus in reliable sources I figure we need anchor article named based on any solid fact we can get. Discussions about what lands or titles people held, if those are not certain, will need to be in the article. I could have said "Count Rudolph", but then we do not know how many Counts there are. Parents tend to have only one child with each name.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 14:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]