Talk:Ruble sign

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R in the English alphabet

Russian Р is not pronounced like the English R at all. The phrasing is very problematic. --2001:16B8:316A:1700:59D1:21CE:E51:D101 (talk) 17:24, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Russian ruble

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The ruble sign (₽, ) ...

I question the value of the second glyph, certainly in the lead, possibly at all. It is a poorly made fuzzy image. I can't see what it adds. It doesn't summarise body content. If it is supposed to represent the 'pre-official' ruble sign (which is indeed described in the body) and if that merits mention in the lead (which is not obvious) then it ought to be done explicitly. My inclination is to just delete it but perhaps there is a good reason for its presence? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 21:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

delete=OK, it is *not* a different sign. -DePiep (talk) 21:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. My guess is that it was an intercept file pending the glyph getting into browsers and major fonts. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:29, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

R in the English alphabet

As of today, the text reads

It features a sans-serif Cyrillic letter Р (R in the English alphabet) with an additional horizontal stroke.

Am I being excessively picky or should this be changed to "a sans-serif Cyrillic letter Р (R in the Latin-script alphabet"? It might respond to the anon editor's comment above that the letters don't sound alike - it depends on the accent of the speaker. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 00:18, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

When I'm logged in, I might edit this myself. I think equivalent to R in the Latin script is the best phrasing.

Given the 20 octillion rouble fine of Google ...

... it would be helpful to see an example of the ruble as it should be displayed in both Russian and English orthography. In order to stop any commentary about the Russian government's recent decision to issue this fine to Google, keep in mind that there is plenty of precedent. France has done so MANY times (privacy violations 2011, and in very large amounts $272 mil 2019.

The article DOES state:

"In Russian orthography, the sign almost always follows the number (the monetary value), and in many cases there is a space between the two."

With Russian orthography, 20 octillion roubles would display as 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ₽
English orthography represented it as ₽20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Sources seem to agree that currency symbol and currency sign are synonymous. Or rather, modern currency signs, including the Russian ruble sign, are of the form https://util.unicode.org/UnicodeJsps/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=[:General_Category=Currency_Symbol:] according to the Unicode standard. (Sorry about the bare link. I can't figure out how to escape it into an external link with wiki syntax.)

I think we're okay with a double space following the numeric amount.

I'll try to remember add an example of what I described above to the article tomorrow. FeralOink (talk) 04:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]