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A lot more content required for a popular glider that had a respectable production run and some attention to Grammar and style is also required to avoid machine-gun sentences.Petebutt (talk) 02:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dates

I've replaced the cns with refs, one better than the other. It seemed that a couple of dates, 1957 and 1967, were awry, for the first metal Rubik (R-23) was flown in 1957, and Jane's says that R-26 production was underway in 1962. The Hungarian gliders site, though not as reliable, has the first production aircraft's first flight in August 1963, in broad agreement. It is true that ref 1 says 1967. I tend to trust Jane's more than any web site, so would like to see the 1965-6 ed but don't have it at home and it's missing from my local library's run.TSRL (talk) 11:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, the Hu:WP has production from 1963.TSRL (talk) 11:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of aircraft first flight and production dates are different in different refs, we just have to go with the most reliable refs we can find! - Ahunt (talk) 16:25, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you happy with the current version? I think JAWA 1965-6 might nail it, being more reliable than most, but can't get hands on it. Sometimes Jane's gets in wrong, or more likely just repeats what it said in an earlier ed. I bumped into Martin Simons this afternoon, at a Vintage GC meet at Camphill; ah, just this moment looked in his book (vol II) and realised he has a piece on the Góbé. Reading quickly, he has P1 1960, P2 1961, prod 1963, in rough agreement with Jane's and the Hungarian gliders site - presume he has seen the JAWA 65 article as well. Think he counts as reliable as most, though no more infallible than any of us. Will try to digest and reference. Cheers, TSRL (talk) 21:32, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds good to me. It is my experience that the manufacturer will announce a first flight (right or wrong) and then everyone else goes by that date, re-quoting it. If the manufacturer gets it wrong or misrepresents the date for certification, customer or investor reasons, then everyone gets it wrong. - Ahunt (talk) 01:45, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]