Talk:Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium

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This article relates to Brussels, and should follow the Brussels naming conventions.

Why the move?

Apart from being a rather stupid name, it seems that the museum has not actually rebranded itself - the website (here) still clearly carries the title "Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium".—Brigade Piron (talk) 08:31, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anthony Appleyard:? —Brigade Piron (talk) 08:36, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Brigade Piron: See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/684539521 . Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:27, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Appleyard, I absolutely get that - but where is the evidence for their claims? Type "Fine Arts Belgium" into Google and you just get the Royal Museums of Fine Arts page. I cannot find anything on the rebrand.—Brigade Piron (talk) 10:01, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Moved back, obviously not uncontroversial. Their Twitter handle is not the same as their official or common name (and agreed that it is a stupid name, but every museum needs either a very sjort name or a clever acronym, as art lovers are not capable of grokking longer names apparently; and of course, a namechange to a stupid name is hardly the biggest problem with the RMFAB (utter mismanagament should be more of a concern for them, remember the Van der Weyden exhibition fiasco)). Fram (talk) 10:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anthony Appleyard: @Fram: @Brigade Piron: FineArtsBelgiumCom (talk) 07:48, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Hi, rebranding is in the pipeline. At the moment, we were trying to change the name of the wiki page as a first step because its geolocation page on FB is still highly misleading to our visitors (as the official page is called "Fine Arts Belgium" but another automatic geolocation page called "Royal Museums..." aslo exists and can't be merged). Maybe there's another option to solve this problem? As for the name itself, we would gladly receive your suggestions based on your vision of the market btw! Thanks for comments and help. Team Fine Arts Belgium. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FineArtsBelgiumCom (talk • contribs) 12:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is the last place to change such things, not (one of) the first. We are an encyclopedia, not the yellow pages. I have no idea what problems with a geolocation page on Facebook have to do with Wikipedia, but frankly it is not our problem, and not our mission to solve such things. As for the name, I don't think you want to be known as fib, a word with negative connotations. "Fine Arts Belgium" sounds like an art dealer or art convention, something like Art Brussels or Art Basel, not like a group of National Museums of major importance. Please remember that for many visitors (e.g. from the Far East), the "Royal" gives it an aura of prestige, importance, should-not-be-missed character. The only thing I would change is "Museum" instead of "Museums", it comes across as an error (even though it is historically correct). Fram (talk) 08:12, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not in our attention to bother you with missions that are not yours. However, note that Facebook representatives led us directly to you, for that matter. We will try to find another way. Thanks for your comprehension and advices (which we already had in mind - although "Royal" is also misleading to some extent: is it Arts about Royalties, are these the Royal Museums of Arts & History?, ...we've heard it all). Acronym of Fine Arts Belgium would be "F.A.B." though, nof "F.I.B." ! Regards, FineArtsBelgiumCom (talk) 11:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about fib / fab, no idea where I got that from. You can obviously disregard that mistaken comment from me in that regard. If the "Royal" is misleading to some people, you can always follow the example of many countries and call it the National Museum of Art or something similar. Including "Museum" seems crucial to me though. Fram (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Fram. You do know that "Royal" is the equivalent of Koninklijk/Royal though, right? It's absolutely nothing to do with "Royalties" (auteursrechten/royalties). Personally I think you'd be mad to try to change the name - especially to your proposed title.—Brigade Piron (talk) 20:16, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]