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Translation

In my opinion, the translation of "Rottenfuehrer" to "Team Leader" is somewhate belittled. The connotation and meaning of "Rotte" in German is not quite captured by the word "Team". "Rotte" in this context is better translated into "Gang" or "Pack" which has more of the brutalish/animalistc/chaotic connotation that "Rotte" has in German.

Photo used as an example of rank

The left sided rank collar tab seems to be on point; there were slight variations which did occur at times given different manufacturer's and the quality of manufacture of such things. As to the right sided collar tab, it is true he does not wear the collar tab of the SS-TV (dead's head), but that does not mean he was not assigned to the Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp complex. At these camps, the Politische Abteilung (Political department) was one of the five departments and made up of Gestapo, Kripo and Sicherheitsdienst (SD) men. Although it would be considered WP:OR at this point, I would say he probably was assigned to that office. He also could have been on temporary assignment there; many SS men rotated in and out of the camps; "convalescing" Waffen-SS soldiers, included (which, shoots down their "separation of service" argument). It should be noted that the photo used for the Rottenfuher article only states he "served" there at that camp, NOT that he was a member of the SS-TV (a camp guard). Therefore, unless someone has some WP:RS evidence which clearly states something different, the photo should remain up. Kierzek (talk) 14:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]