Talk:Rotta (lyre)

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Merge proposal

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I propose merging Anglo-Saxon lyre into Rotta (lyre), renaming it Rotte (lyre). The article would be under the name Rotte (lyre) but would keep the Anglo-Saxon-lyre article intact as is.

:Reason: The rotte name was in standard use during the instrument's life; according to The New Grove Encyclopedia of Musial Instruments, in the 12th century, scribes were complaining that the common name for the German lyre, Rotte, was being applied to an inappropriate instrument, the triangular psaltery. New Grove makes it clear that an instrument (descended from Western Asia and Egypt) was used across Europe by Germanic and Celtic people, called by a variation of the name Rotte (crwth, cruit, crot in Celtic, rote and crowd in English, rote in French, Rotte in German). Illustrations for the New Grove article include Sutton Hoo, Oberflacht (see Reconstructions of Germanic Lyres in Grove Music Online) and Cologne Germanic lyres, as well as the Kravik lyre from Norway. It also includes the Bespasian psalter image. Much of the current Rotta (lyre) article is about a theory in which the instrument changed into a guitar; that content is already addressed in Cythara and doesn't need to be in the merged article; images of Anglo-Saxon lyres File:Utrechts-Psalter PSALM-149-PSALM-150 psalterio or lyre.jpg from the Utrecht Psalter can be added as appropriate. Jacqke (talk) 21:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]