Talk:Roseanne Barr/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: AIRcorn (talk) 10:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Looks good after a quick glance. Will review it over the next few days. AIRcorn (talk) 10:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Had no response from the nominator

Criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   some minor points below

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   One sentence which needs a cite if it is to remain.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   good

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   No red flags when reading this

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   Currently semi-protected due to some issues with a joke she made. Other than that some petty vandalism, but no evidence of long term unstability.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   The File:Roseanne barr.jpg is a screenshot. It can only be used under fair use and my understanding is that for living people they are virtually never acceptable.

   Sorted AIRcorn (talk) 11:37, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Still reviewing, still need to check some references. AIRcorn (talk) 12:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Happy with the referencing. Will be happy to pass this after the image, citation needed minor prose issues are addressed. AIRcorn (talk) 02:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments

• Quite a few sentences start with "Barr ...." in a row in the first paragraph. Would be nice to mix it up a bit.
• In the Roseanne sitcom, film, books, and talk show: 1987–2003 section it would be good to make it clear that it is talking about the Roseanne show.
• However, ABC had withdrawn from negotiations with Carsey-Werner and Barr and after failed discussions with CBS and Fox, Carsey-Werner and Barr agreed to not go on with the negotiations. Awkward sentence - lots of "ands" plus repeats "Carsey-Werner and Barr". Can it be reworded.
• She currently hosts a weekly radio show Sundays on KCAA in the Los Angeles area called "The Roseanne and Johnny Show". Does this need updating.
  • Tweaked wording. —Mike Allen 07:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
• Bill Pentland is a circular link. Is he ever likely to be notable enough for his own article?
  • No I doubt he ever will. —Mike Allen 07:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
• The last few sentences of the Geraldine paragraph need to be tightened up. In particular the Geraldine was fired by Barr and Geraldine sued her claiming that she was owed money for her role in her sister's career sentence.
• See also Arnold, R. (1994) My Lives (New York: Ballantine Books.) Why is this not used as a reference?
  • Not sure for what, so I removed it. —Mike Allen 07:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
• The last paragraph does not fit very well with personal life. Maybe it would fit better under career, or a new section heading?
• What makes reference 2[1] reliable.
  • It is referencing her first two books (but I can use this for that. The other thing it's sourcing is that her father was a "door-to-door salesman of household goods". I'll try and find another source for that. —Mike Allen 07:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Just letting you know that I will be taking care of the problems you have. —Mike Allen 01:33, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Sweet. If you disagree or have any questions with any of my comments just leave a note under it. I view these as a collaborative effort and would be more than willing to discuss any points. AIRcorn (talk) 02:21, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok well the screenshot is a free image. I made sure of that (and it's documented as such). :) —Mike Allen 05:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I did not see that it was Monterey Media's Flickr account. AIRcorn (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Changed a Yahoo ref for one a bit more reliable and will now pass this AIRcorn (talk) 11:46, 16 August 2011 (UTC)