Talk:Rose hip seed oil

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Non established, non encyclopaedic info in last paragraph

The last paragraph contains such commercial, cosmetic-industry language as "promotes collagen and elastin production which smoothes the skin" etc. I marked them all as citation needed but am tempted to simply remove them. There are studies that do support what's written... poorly organized, methodologically problematic studies funded by cosmetic manufacturers. This article needs proper chemical info and a reference to the vast amount of studies on the in-vivo affect of Rose hip oil. John Holly (talk) 10:38, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and I deleted the lot. Until there is a valid, respectable study to cite, all of these claims are quackery which were no doubt added by parties with a vested interest in the product.Coolcato (talk) 13:02, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Probably wrong information on: "Rosehip seed oil can also be extracted from rosa moschata"

On the page (first two lignes) it is written: ″Rose hip seed oil is a pressed seed oil, extracted from the seeds of the wild rose bush Rosa rubiginosa (Spanish: rosa mosqueta) in the southern Andes. Rosehip seed oil can also be extracted from rosa moschata, which grows in many regions of the world including Western Himalayas and Europe.″

However, rosa moschata is not used to make rose hip seed oil. Indeed, there is a common botanical mistake relayed by many articles and brands between rosa mosqueta and Rosa moschata. The vernacular Spanish name rosa mosqueta (= Rosa rubiginosa) from which the oil is extracted, should not be confused with the musk rose called Rosa moschata. Indeed, Rosa moschata, from its botanical name "Rosa moschata Herrm." (with white flower, belonging to the Synstylae section and discovered/described by the French physician and naturalist Jean Herrmann) is no longer cultivated.

Today, rose hip seed oil is made from Rosa rubiginosa or Rosa canina.

This difference is clearly stated on the French page of rose hip seed oil.L'huile de rose musquée est une huile végétale, riche en acides gras essentiels, extraite des fruits (ou akènes) du rosier rubigineux (Rosa rubiginosa L.), très utilisée en cosmétique, elle est conseillée pour les peaux mûres ou tachetées. Ce rosier, originaire d'Europe, est cultivé en particulier au Chili et en Argentine où il s'est naturalisé au point de devenir une plante envahissante. Il y est appelé rosa mosqueta, mais ne doit pas être confondu avec l'espèce Rosa moschata J.Herrm., qui est le véritable rosier musqué, originaire d'Asie. Translated to English: "Rosehip oil (Litteraly Oil of musk rose in French) is a vegetable oil, rich in essential fatty acids, extracted from the fruits (or achenes) of the rubiginous rose (Rosa rubiginosa L.), widely used in cosmetics, it is recommended for mature or spotted skin.This rose, native to Europe, is cultivated in particular in Chile and Argentina where it has become naturalized to the point of becoming an invasive plant. It is called rosa mosqueta there, but should not be confused with the species Rosa moschata J.Herrm., which is the true musk rose, native to Asia."

Moreover, this mistake is also explained on the French page of Rosa sect. Caninae, more precisely on the references section Rosa Mosqueta n'est pas Rosa moschata.

Thus, the corrected version should be: Rose hip seed oil is a pressed seed oil, extracted from the seeds of the wild rose bush Rosa rubiginosa (Spanish: rosa mosqueta) in the southern Andes. Rosehip seed oil can also be extracted from Rosa canina, wild rose species native to Europe, northwest Africa, and western Asia.

Clara.Petrinko (talk) 01:24, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]