Talk:Rosalind P. Walter

Possible improvements

This seems a little 'busy' section-wise. Can I suggest removing the headings "The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation" and "Public television, journalism and the humanities". I think that it would read fine without them.

I am not sure about this, but if it were an historical figure I would put her date of birth in the infobox, even if it had to be c. 1925. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:53, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

• Gog the Mild. Many thanks for the feedback. I'll take a look to see what I can tighten up re: the headings. I'm a little reluctant to place a tenative birth year for her in the Infobox. Even though I found a reliable source (the 1940 U.S. Census) for the estimated year, I haven't seen that year posted anywhere else (including in the bios written for her by the multiple orgs for which she serves as a board or trustee member), which makes me think she may not want the year posted. So, out of an abundance of caution (and in deference to Wikipedia's standards for the bios of living subjects), I thought it might be more prudent to include the estimated date in the body of the article, but not the Infobox. (Does it "gum up" the Infobox too much if I leave it out?) 47thPennVols (talk) 21:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

IMHO no. Now that you have explained it, I would do the same. If a reader really wants to know, it's in the text. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:09, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! (I also figured I can add it in later if I come across a reliable bio source that does print it, or just add it in a decade or two down the road as the Infobox is updated with additional vital statistics.) Also, huge thanks for the suggestion to reduce the headers. (Done! Looks much better.) I'm still amazed that there was no bio of her posted before now. I've spent a good chunk of my life (from my 20s onward) hearing the phrase, "This project is made possible through the generosity of the National Endowment for the Humanities ... with major funding from Rosalind P. Walter" as I settled into my comfiest chair to watch new humanities programs on public television. Am feeling rather blessed right now to have had the chance to write this article about her (my own small way of thanking her), and hope that, one day, some little girl working on a history project for school will find and be motivated by it. (Stepping off my soapbox now to head back to reading and editing Bibulus.) 47thPennVols (talk) 21:41, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit of locations in "Fomative Years"

I am 'new' to editing Wikipedia, but I am a family member of Mrs. Walter. There is no information I can find on the page for the 'source' cited for the use of Locust Valley in this section.

Her parents Carleton and Winthrop Palmer owned homes in New York City and Fairfield CT during the years in question. Thus a check of the census records will confirm that they did not live in Locust Valley. Thank you for your consideration.Lenore2019 (talk) 14:09, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Lenore2019: Thank you for sharing your knowledge. First, welcome. I understand that it can be somewhat confusing trying to get up to speed with Wikipedia's various "how to" procedures; so, thank you for being willing to sign on and contribute. I'd recommend that, if you plan to continue to make edits to this or other Wikipedia articles in the future, that you first post a brief profile of yourself on the User page section of your profile so that other Wikipedia editors know that your account is a legitimate one. (Unfortunately, there are people who open fake Wikipedia accounts just to place inaccurate data into articles - particularly with biographies of famous people. Often, such edits are no more than pranks by kids, but sometimes these types of edits are genuinely malicious - designed to spread a rumor about and/or harm the reputation of a particular biographical subject, for example.) For guidance on how to create your user page, please see "Wikipedia: User page design center."

Regarding your proposed changes to the article for Rosalind P. Walter, I appreciate your sharing that you are a family member of Ms. Walter's; however, the data about Ms. Walter's ties to the Locust Valley has been published by one of the organizations actively supported by Ms. Walter during her philanthropy career - the Grenville Baker Boys & Girls Club in Locust Valley, New York. (The link to that source is provided in reference number 2: "Rosie the Riveter and GBBGC." Locust Valley, New York: Grenville Baker Boys & Girls Club, March 12, 2018.)

That source (the Grenville Boys & Girls Club's website) states that as "The daughter of Winthrop and Carleton Humphreys Palmer, Rosalind grew up in the Locust Valley area and attended the Ethel Walker School in Connecticut," and that Rosalind P. Walter "has served as a member of ... the Board of Overseers at Grenville Baker Boys & Girls Club. She has been a longtime sponsor of the Club’s June Dance, a Lifetime Supporter of our Annual Fund, and a faithful friend and advisor to the Club. In 2016, Rosalind was inducted into the Club’s Hall of Fame." It is reasonable to assume, therefore, that the Grenville Boys & Girls Club was presented with Ms. Walter's biography at some point during her association (a biography which must have included some reference to her ties to the Locust Valley - which is why would the club's staff chose to publish this data on their organization's website).

This source, therefore, seems to provide more accurate data than is reflected in the census records which you are referencing. (Since the census was/is only conducted every ten years, it's possible that census records would not reveal Ms. Walter's ties to the Locust Valley, whereas other sources - such as the website of a non-profit with which she was active - might.) So, before removing the Locust Valley data, I would recommend that, in the interest of accuracy, since you are a family member of Ms. Walter's, that you clarify with her directly whether or not the Grenville Boys & Girls Club data is correct or not. If it is not, she may wish to contact the staff at Grenville to have them correct their website. The changes they make might then be used as a verifiable source to update Ms. Walter's biographical entry on Wikipedia. Also, you might also ask if Ms. Walter would be willing to provide a photo of herself (one that is in the public domain). A welcome addition to the article, a photo of her could help young people who may be researching her life for school projects have a better sense of who she is. I hope that these suggestions are helpful, but if you have further questions, please feel free to contact me. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 17:13, 18 January 2019 (U

Please review the source for the information cited above - Grenville Baker Boys & Girl's Club website. It now lists corrected information on the topic of this chat. Thank you, Lenore2019Lenore2019 (talk) 13:49, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Lenore2019: Thank you for working with the club to update its website. I'll go ahead and make changes to the article for Ms. Walter. Let me know if you see anything else which needs to be adjusted. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 22:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Did Walter divorce her first husband, or was she widowed?

Did Walter divorce her first husband, or was she widowed? Bgranat (talk) 01:43, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

They were divorced since he passed away in 2000. 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 04:32, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Husbands

Why is only one husband, the second one, listed in the Infobox?

Why no info on the end of the first marriage?

Just curious. 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 04:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Assuming the best, as we're trained to do as editors on Wikipedia, I'm not quite sure you realize how your questions may come across to readers here (particularly because they're being posed by an anonymous user posting from just an IP address). I'm sure this wasn't your intent, but from your phrasing, you seem to be implying that there was some "dissembling" involved when creating and editing this article about Rosalind Walter when, in fact, there's a very simple explanation. I opted to leave the info about her first husband off of the Infobox during my creation of the article and subsequent updates because I was unable, during my lengthy research into Ms. Walter's life, to find an appropriate source to document whether or not she had been divorced or widowed (and when). I had intended, if I eventually did come across such a source, to add the info to the article body and Infobox. 47thPennVols (talk) 18:11, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Photo

So, what did she look like?

With her philanthropy, I'm sure there were photos/pics taken of her.

How about getting one or some for this article? 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 04:37, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Your first two questions were already answered by the External resources section of this article. (See the link for: "Rosalind P. Walter with journalist Charlie Rose, documentarian Ric Burns, et. al. (various event photographs). Getty Images, retrieved online July 19, 2018.") As for why no photographs of her were added to the article body, despite my extensive research into her life, I could find no photographs of Ms. Walter that were available in the public domain, or via free license, or that would have qualified for "fair use," or that might not have run into a problem with "personality rights." (See Wikipedia's Image use policy for further explanation.) 47thPennVols (talk) 18:31, 6 March 2020 (UTC)