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Since somebody asked: I have no commercial connection with this subject. I did work for Ogilvy & Mather, the company of which he is currently vice-chairman from 2018 to 2000, it was my first real job after university. During my brief employment at Ogilvy worked with him on a number of occasions. At the time he was the head of creative for Ogilvy London, and I was an insignificant junior analyst!
I was made redundant in 2001, and I have not worked in marketing (or a related field) since 2002. Let me know if you have any questions and please advise as to what additional disclosure may be necessary. --Salimfadhley (talk) 12:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I came here after my search for the inevitable article on Rory Sutherland turned up a rugby player instead, and not even a mention on the redirect page. Which begs the question - what is the tipping point for inclusion? Does he have to wait until he is dead to be considered 'notable'? Does anyone else see the implicit irony in his using 'Wiki Man' as the title of his column? For that matter, what does *any* advertising professional have to do to be deemed worthy? I am an inclusionist. As someone who routinely, for a very long time, has expectations around finding the truth about people who have a footprint on the internet at WP, to see not only that he does not have a page, but that his bio precipitates an AfD controversy repeatedly, is nuts to me. --Brad Patrick (talk) 13:18, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I'm not an inclusionist, but I am also the person who created this draft. I can see the reason why it was bumped back to draft-space. There's very little coverage of this Sutherland that is arguably a secondary source. There are plenty of interviews, and also his own writing which is prolific, but other editors have pointed out that this is not "organic" coverage.
And to be honest, I'm sympathetic to this rejection rationale. I used to work for O&M and I worked closely with the publicity / PR departments. We used to get this kind of press all the time. It is precisely because Rory is the vice-chairman of an organization that is all about media and communication that the bar has been raised so high. Salimfadhley (talk) 13:29, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
