Talk:Ronald Fraser (actor)

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He is described as "English-born Scottish". There is no source for ascribing this very awkward origin to Fraser. I haven't seen this wording used elsewhere either. Shouldn't we change this to a more direct description? If not, can someone say how the English and Scottish labels are defined? These cannot be official so why are they used instead of official labels as for other countries? I suggest just taking out the confusing phrase as the rest of the sentence (and paragraph) works without it.--154.59.156.92 (talk) 15:34, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Further, the categories say English actor, or English of Scottish descent. He was born and died in England. He was educated in Scotland and his father was from there, but he himself seems to have been English. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 02:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The categories are usually added after the text so they are not authoritative. The "English" and "Scottish" labels are not defined and are only used in support of a specific statement of such by the subject of the article. We don't have one here. As with the rest of the world, the state citizenship (British) should be used to describe the person involved. --Muirofsara (talk) 13:12, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]