Talk:Ron Dias (disambiguation)
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Canadian director
[edit]Greetings @MB: I'm not convinced that Ron Dias (director) satisfies WP:DABRELATED. That guideline uses the example of a volleyball set in Set (disambiguation). The article volleyball has a section Volleyball#Set which is a solid four paragraphs and describes it in detail. I also feel that it makes sense to include this in the volleyball article rather than having a separate article Set (volleyball). With Dias and Bite of a Mango, the article briefly mentions that he wrote, directed, and contributed to editing, colouring, etc., for this one film, and was inspired by events of 2020. It's about three sentences, with focus spread among all the contributors to the film. It doesn't seem to include the person's defining characteristics, what would fill the lead of a biography article if there was one about him.
I'd also note that the example for Set uses *Set, a team's second contact with the ball in [[volleyball]] with Set neither redlinked nor bluelinked. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:26, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- I don't believe it needs to include the person's defining characteristics. The goal is to help readers find what coverage we do have, and linking here is much better than not mentioning. Per WP:REDDAB and WP:DABRED, redlinks are used in dabs when they exist in other articles and article on the subject is likely to be written. MB 19:35, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Is there a way to actually redlink Ron Dias (director) then, so that it doesn't link the current redirect? So far as I know it isn't actually redlinked anywhere since the redirect was created, and I think redirects are discouraged on dab pages. I feel it would be better to have it in plain text than as a redirect to the article already linked in the description. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- It is fine to have redirects in a dab - just not piped links. Someone else has changed the redlink to a redirect already, so it isn't even a redlink anymore. The Ron Dias (director) was already linked from several articles. You can click on a redlink and then from the next page where is asks if you want to created it, you can click on "what links here" and see them. Now you can just do that from the redirect: [1] MB 21:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm... WP:REDDEAL states
The red link may identify a need to create a redirect to another article, but only if that article comprehensively deals with the topic.
This gets back to WP:DABRELATED and how thoroughly the subtopic is described in the primary topic's article. I'm going to be bold and remove the link to the redirect, with the link to Bite of a Mango sufficing. (Both would be WP:OVERLINK, though maybe that doesn't apply to a non-encyclopedic page.) It might also/alternatively worth exploring if the redirect should be deleted, but it doesn't seem that would be likely to find traction at RfD despite the guidelines. – Reidgreg (talk) 07:17, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm... WP:REDDEAL states
- It is fine to have redirects in a dab - just not piped links. Someone else has changed the redlink to a redirect already, so it isn't even a redlink anymore. The Ron Dias (director) was already linked from several articles. You can click on a redlink and then from the next page where is asks if you want to created it, you can click on "what links here" and see them. Now you can just do that from the redirect: [1] MB 21:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Is there a way to actually redlink Ron Dias (director) then, so that it doesn't link the current redirect? So far as I know it isn't actually redlinked anywhere since the redirect was created, and I think redirects are discouraged on dab pages. I feel it would be better to have it in plain text than as a redirect to the article already linked in the description. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2022 (UTC)