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Nationality

I object to Roma Downey being referred to as a British actress. Apart from the fact that Britain does NOT include Northern Ireland (Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales; Northern Ireland is considered part of the United Kingdom which is a different thing altogether), Roma Downey was born and raised Catholic. (Whether she still considers herself as such I do not know); and therefore will identify herself as Irish and not British, which is the almost unique preserve of Protestants within Northern Ireland. My mother went to school with her: I know of what I am talking. I have changed the "British actor stub" line to "European actor" as I was unable to find an equivalent for Irish actors. If such a template exists, I invite someone else to substitute it. Belueberry 03:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh Dear! Are you trying to say that Irish Catholics cannot be British? What Gestapo Department issues these orders? It does lead to some interesting situations however! You say NI Protestants are all British so the famous/ Irish/ (!!) band U2 is certainly British! Of its four members, two were born in Britain (Wales and England) and one, the grandson of the Anglican Protestant Bishop of Northern Ireland; was born in Northern Ireland, and is certainly British! In addition, of course Bono had a British Northern Ireland father and choose to go to what was popularly called the British school in Dublin were they spoke with British accents and played cricket in the summer! Yet U2are still called an Irish band! Some blarney there I think! The fact is that many of the problems in Northern Ireland are misrepresented. There can never be a united Ireland. It is not because of the British or the Protestants etc., but because the great majority of Catholics, both north and south would never vote for it. End of story! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.99.9.19 (talk • contribs) 06:21, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By virtue of being born in the United Kingdom, Downey is a British citizen, but being born in Northern Ireland would also entitle her to an Irish passport. She may, in fact, hold both. Given the usual sensitivity about the issue, though, in the absence of verifiable evidence either way, neither should be pushed. Nick Cooper (talk) 13:20, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Leland Orser

Claims not to be married to him. Sources that say otherwise are: http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/celebrity-news-gossip/an-angel-with-her-feet-firmly-on-the-ground-506242.html

Gale Research Company (2002). Volume 45 of Contemporary Theatre, Film and Television. Gale Research Company. p. 44. ISBN 9780787663605..

moving claim out of the article until we resolve this though.©Geni 03:17, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roma Downey devout Catholic

If she is a devout Catholic, why was she not married by a Catholic Priest? 63.3.2.1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:00, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly--if her first marriage was not annulled and her current marriage has not been officiated in the Catholic Church, then she cannot take Communion. She may pray devoutly and follow other teachings of the church, however. I'm not inclined to judge someone's devotion, but I'd rather see this edited to read that she was raised Catholic.DallasKat (talk) 23:13, 10 March 2013 (UTC)DallasKat[reply]

Done If you want to check, the article here now says: "Downey was raised as, and remains, a Roman Catholic." — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:21, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up miniseries and its Wlink

The reference to the new mini "A.D." should be given a wikilink that doesn't go to the article for the Christian era concept, but rather to "A.D. (tv miniseries)" or something. There was an earlier tv series with the same name and with similar subject matter, in the mid-eighties, with Ava Gardner and others, so a date or some other qualifier will be needed on one of the entries if there's an article here (edit:yes, there is) about that earlier tv mini. But I don't think there would be many such links on WP at present, so the "1985" date could be added to such article.

By the way, I don't think tv series with ten episodes or thereabouts and a connected, complex story with a clear end, really belong within the moniker "mini series". Maybe that way is USage, but to me and most people I know, a tv miniseries has two to four episodes, often substantially longer than the 45-60 minutes each format. "tv series" (without anything more) in modern north American usage sometimes seems to denote the open-ended kind that can go on for years, with or without extended, powerful storylines that stretch over several episodes - from The Sopranos to General Hospital and The Simpsons.

Apparently "A.D." and "The Dovekeepers" are separate projects since they were commissioned by different U.S. networks, though they belong in the same period. I guess we'll get to hear more about both of those. Strausszek (talk) 11:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a portrait-photo

There needs to be a portrait-photo in the article here. They always add to a WP article. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Project of great love and creative passion: created by Mr/Mrs Burnett, Mark Burnett and Roma Downey

(1) [The movie] comes to theaters Feb. 28, 2014. This major movie event brings the story of the life of Jesus Christ to audiences of all kinds through compelling cinematic storytelling that is both powerful and inspirational. Film producer Mark Burnett says this movie will have a wide impact for Christian evangelism as modern technology brings the film about the life of Jesus to remote areas of the world. "We believe in the decades to come, people in remote places will find Jesus through watching this movie on their iPhones," Burnett told Newsmax in an exclusive interview." [eMail] — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(2) Headline: For Mark Burnett and Roma Downey, ‘Son of God’ was a passion project

http://www.washingtonpost.com/express/wp/2014/02/28/for-mark-burnett-and-roma-downey-son-of-god-was-a-passion/

"Two things are surprising when the interview with Mark Burnett and Roma Downey starts. First, Burnett — the London-born kazillionaire best known for inventing “Survivor” and other pop culture touchstones — pours the reporter a glass of water before pouring one for himself. Second, the husband-and-wife team are clearly, adorably, very much in love. The intensity is striking and a bit unnerving. And they’ve turned every bit of that intensity to their latest project, “Son of God.” Burnett and Downey (who played the lead in the long-running TV series “Touched by an Angel”) were among the producers of the miniseries “The Bible,” which was nominated for three Emmys and became the year’s No. 1 cable entertainment show when it aired on History channel in 2013. Now they’ve taken the parts of the miniseries that dealt with the life of Jesus and turned it into the feature “Son of God,” which opens Friday. Burnett and Downey see the film primarily as a way to reach millions with the story of Christ, and secondarily as an artistic endeavor. ..." (Mrs Burnett is Roma Downey). — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(3) Headline: 'Son of God': A miraculous journey to the big screen — By Roma Downey and Mark Burnett, Published February 27, 2014 FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/27/son-god-miraculous-journey-to-big-screen/

"In all our combined years in the entertainment industry, we’ve never seen anything like this kind of grass-roots support for a project. It is truly miraculous." — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:43, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

She was born a Catholic and there is no evidence to suggest she ever left the church. One can be a Catholic without following church rules. Her religion should be stated as Roman Catholic.--Batmacumba (talk) 19:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Practicing, adherent Roman Catholics can get divorced and remarried now, and have the marriage celebrated by a female priest? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:48, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are not excommunicated for it, even if the church doesn't recognize the new marriage. As long as a person hasn't left the church or are excommunicated they remain Catholics. Whether he or she is devout etc. isn't something we should take into consideration in an encyclopaedia, that is far too subjective. What matters in a Wiki context isn't level of faith or adherence to church dogma, but simply whether she belongs to the church and since she was baptized and raised as a Catholic and we have no sources saying she ever left the church, we should assume that she hasn't left it.--Batmacumba (talk) 13:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article says she is a Catholic http://www.cruxnow.com/life/2015/04/01/how-catholic-is-a-d-the-bible-continues/ ("it was her Catholic faith that sparked.." etc.). There is no doubt she has flirted with New Age and occultism, but it doesn't seem like she ever left the Catholic church.--Batmacumba (talk) 14:15, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, so. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:24, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Derry, County Londonderry, Northern Ireland

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100 million viewers for "The Bible" is incorrect. 2601:647:CB80:31C8:7435:7641:7470:2BFB (talk) 09:19, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 09:38, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reads like PR

The article needs a warning hatnote to say it reads too much like a publicity release. Just one simple example: she's a producer of several recent TV series that failed; but the series are listed without comment, as if they were achievements. Zaslav (talk) 00:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hi, I work for Frank PR on behalf of Roma and therefore have a conflict of interest. As such, below are some suggested additions to the article, complete with sources. Thanks for your help!

At the end of the second lead paragraph, add the following: In 2021, Downey received the Lifetime Achievement Award for the International Christian Film & Music Festival^[1] and was named an Officer of the Order of the British Empire for services to the Arts, Drama and to the Community in Northern Ireland.^[2]
In the middle of the following paragraph, add: Resurrection, Messiah and Country Ever After which aired in 2021.^[3] after "Son of God (2014), Little Boy, ~~and~~ Woodlawn".
At the end of the same paragraph, add: and of the short film Rough which won the IFTA for best short film in 2021.^[4]

References

^ "International Christian Film & Music Festival to honor Roma Downey at annual event". The Christian Post. 18 March 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
^ "Derry actress and producer Roma Downey awarded OBE in Honours List". www.derryjournal.com. 12 June 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
^ Petski, Denise (10 February 2021). "'Resurrection' Feature From 'The Bible' Producers To Premiere On Discovery+". Deadline.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
^ Grater, Tom (4 July 2021). "'Normal People' & 'Wolfwalkers' Triumph At Irish Film & TV Awards". Deadline.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

Thanks again, Franklyspeaking2008 (talk) 18:49, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Franklyspeaking2008: per WP:LEAD, the lead summarises the article. So before those claims could be added to the lead, they would need to be added to the main body of the article. Do you have any preferred locations for the information to be added to the main body? FDW777 (talk) 18:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@FDW777: Thanks for pointing that out! I see that Country Ever After (2020), Resurrection (2021), and Rough (2020) are not currently listed in the filmography section under "Producer", and Rough hasn't yet been added to the "Awards and nominations" section, so I imagine they should be included there. Same for the Lifetime Achievement Award. The information could technically be included under "Career- Other work" as well. Do you agree? Thanks for your help with this! Franklyspeaking2008 (talk) 19:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@FDW777: Shall I take care of this? Thank you, PK650 (talk) 22:53, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done I agree with what's been indicated above. I did not go ahead with it due to lack of time to copy edit a larger chunk of the article, but please feel free to request another edit for that purpose. The 3 formal requests were implemented. PK650 (talk) 00:04, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Birthdate and age.

Why does user FDW777 keep removing the age or birthdate for Roma Downey? Paige Matheson (talk) 22:13, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your question should really be why do people think content policies like WP:V and WP:BLP don't apply to this article. FDW777 (talk) 22:41, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "International Christian Film & Music Festival to honor Roma Downey at annual event". The Christian Post. 18 March 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

[2] "Derry actress and producer Roma Downey awarded OBE in Honours List". www.derryjournal.com. 12 June 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

[3] Petski, Denise (10 February 2021). "'Resurrection' Feature From 'The Bible' Producers To Premiere On Discovery+". Deadline.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

[4] Grater, Tom (4 July 2021). "'Normal People' & 'Wolfwalkers' Triumph At Irish Film & TV Awards". Deadline.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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