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Reviewer: Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:32, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am currently reviewing the article. Other comments welcome. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:32, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Failed "Good article" nomination

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This article has failed its good article nomination. This is how the article, as of May 8, 2011, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?:Yes.
2. Factually accurate?:Yes.
3. Broad in coverage?:Yes.
4. Neutral point of view?:Yes
5. Article stability?Yes
6. Images?: No. File:Pokémon_Emerald_screenshot.png and File:Sephiroth.png lack a free-use rationale for this article.
Additional comments: Length may be a problem, but considering the breadth of the subject matter it is acceptable. Certain tags have yet to be addressed.

After these concerns have been addressed, the article may be renominated. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What about #4? Yes? No? SharkD  Talk  21:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, sorry about that. It is neutral. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Which tags are you referring to specifically? The big, boxy, colorful ones? Or the little "citation needed" notices? SharkD  Talk  22:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Both, although the big colourful ones are the most important. Sorry for the late reply, been a bit busy. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:45, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've commented out the Sephiroth image, seeing as how the bit about the kawaisa/bishounen style is no longer there. However, I'm not too sure what to do about the Pokemon image, as I'm no expert when it comes to providing free-use rationales for images, nor can I think of what else to replace it with (since the entire console RPG section only has two other images), so any help on this would be appreciated. Regards, Jagged 85 (talk) 23:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Pokemon image was deleted entirely, apparently, so you would need to re-upload it and *then* add the rationale. SharkD  Talk  14:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind. It wasn't deleted. It simply isn't rendering in my browser. SharkD  Talk  14:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and added a fair use rationale to the image. SharkD  Talk  14:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you could dig through the article history for the bishounen stuff. I don't know why it was removed. SharkD  Talk  14:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've also removed the tagged unsourced sentence in the tactical RPG section as it seems far too generalized and a bit dubious. I'll probably get around to looking at the other tagged statements sometime later. Regards, Jagged 85 (talk) 23:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would recommend replacing the FFIV cutscene with a gameplay image from the Super NES version. I think that the ATB system's depiction is a lot more informative. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The image caption specifically mentions "dramatic story-telling", which is nowhere evident in the gameplay image. The gameplay image also doesn't show us anything new (it only shows the game's menu-based combat) that can't already be seen in the FFVII and Dragon Quest images. So, no, I don't think this would be a good idea. SharkD  Talk  22:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think that one of the strategy RPG images should be removed, and the FFXI image either strengthened or replaced (maybe with WoW, since it's so much more notable as an MMORPG than FFXI). — Preceding unsigned comment added by New Age Retro Hippie (talk • contribs)

Here's the stuff on kawaisa that was removed for some reason:

"Another oft-cited difference is the prominence or absence of kawaisa, or "cuteness", in Japanese culture, and different approaches with respect to character aesthetics.[1] Western RPGs tend to maintain a serious and gritty tone, with predominantly male protagonists exhibiting overtly masculine physical features and mannerisms. JRPG protagonsists tend to be designed with an emphasis on aesthetic beauty, and even male characters are often androgynous or bishōnen in appearance. JRPGs often have cute (and even comic-relief type) characters or animals, juxtaposed (or clashing) with more mature themes and situations; and many modern JRPGs feature characters designed in the same style as those in anime.[2] The stylistic differences are often due to differing target audiences: Western RPGs are usually geared primarily towards teenage to adult males, whereas Japanese RPGs are usually intended for a much larger demographic,[3] including female audiences.[4]"

Not sure how much of it can be salvaged. SharkD  Talk  15:12, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference barton_evw was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference vintage_d was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Barton 2008, p. 223
  4. ^ Cite error: The named reference nzg_evw was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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