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Murder CHARGE Vs CONVICTION

I changed this category correctly. Weinstein was charged with rape AND CONVICTED. Spacey was charged with harassment and not convicted so they remain charges. Avary was convicted of murder and did time. Editor is a fan of the filmmaker and claims violation of NPOV but the opposite is true- editor is the one ignoring facts with opinions. I want to edit accurately TheGreenDahlia (talk) 23:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

looking for objections to calling a convicted murderer a murderer TheGreenDahlia (talk) 01:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

"The screenplay was based in part on his experiences travelling through Europe (which he also refers to in Victor's European trip in "The Rules of Attraction"). "

Don't think this is true, believe the text is lifted verbatim from the Brett Easton-Ellis novel of the same name.

Actually, it's not verbatim from the novel. It's quite different. I've read an interview, though I can't remember where (it might have been off of Avary's site, or maybe it was from the DVD commentary), where Avary stated that he wove the diary of his own European trip in with Brett's and then with Kip Pardue's. Combined all three.

me thinks avary wrote this biography himself, if not, then a devoted (payed) assistant

Cleanup

This page needs some major cleanup, pulling everything that isnt sourced.

titles

The titles feel as if it's a news/magazine article. What about making them more encyclopedia-ish? 80.239.75.194 13:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. A lot of band articles do this and it's bad form there. We aren't "Behind the Music" and we aren't in the business of tweaking up the drama of someone's life. --Dhartung | Talk 11:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And yet, you claim to be an Inclusionist who believes in Recentism. I believe this article is in dire need of editing for attribution and could stand "tweaking down" the drama, but filmmakers like Avary and Tarantino are very much about their story. WikiTracker (talk) 17:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do my Wikipedia philosophies have to do with the issue at hand? I am not saying the article should be deleted. It should not, however, be "about their story". We must observe WP:NPOV. --Dhartung | Talk 19:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't mean it to be a cheap shot -- apologies. It's just that those of us who've helped build this page don't think of it as "Behind the Music" (a cheap shot in itself) but a biography, not unlike a number of other filmmaker bios on Wikipedia. Filmmakers of the early 90's are all about the "story" and it's sometimes irresistible to not present their lives in the spirit of the biographies we're culling from. You're right, though, about it reading a wee bit dramatic. It does. Will work on that. :-) WikiTracker (talk) 21:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Olive farmer?!

Who's the genius who put this in his opening sentence. It states clearly in the source that it is a hobby, and not something he is known for. This does not belong in the opening paragraph, let alone the opening sentence. TheXenocide (talk) 01:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed it. JoshuSasori (talk) 05:02, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Legal Troubles" vs. "Manslaughter Charge"

I think it's more accurate to entitle Section 3 "Manslaughter Charge" rather than "Legal Troubles". To begin with, there are no other legal troubles mentioned in that section, so the original title is misleading. It is also vague. Now that the individual has been formally charged with a specific crime, I believe that's what the section is most correctly called. He got away with murder- and still complained. The man killed is still dead. No furlough for him.

The open road

Is the article trying to insinuate that the open road became True Romance? If so, why not out and say it. I can't quite figure it out. -- cmh^TC 04:11, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Role as actor

The section pertaining to his role as an actor in the movie Standing Still (2005) is linked to the song by Jewel. Does this need to be fixed or is this intentional (ie. he "acted" in her music video)?

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