Talk:Rodrigo Tavares

Reverted edit - potentially COI or Ownership issue - may be some good material

@Fgvwiki07, Spintendo, and Drmies: @Jytdog, Kudpung, Winged Blades of Godric, and John from Idegon: (pinged because you made a recent edit to the article.

I reverted this edit because it seems to go against collective improvements made to the article, also there may be issues with conflict of interest or ownership. However, there may be some usable material in that edit. Jonpatterns (talk) 10:42, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

sorry, it was a mistake to publish it directly (Im still learning how to maneuvre wikipedia). The revised version of the article is now on Talk pages, as I should have done in the first place. I hope this version incorporates all thorough comments from editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fgvwiki07 (talk • contribs) 10:56, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

I think the current structure is more in keeping with Wikipedia's style, though some of the content may be usable. The proposed 'Public Sector' section lists a lot of non-notable trivia. I think it would be better to use the term 'academic' rather than 'scholar'. Journalism may not be his main occupation but you mentioned he writes for Brazilian newsmagazine Época. Biographies of living people have to be correct due the potential of liable action. Pages can be protected against edits, though usually when there is on going edit conflicts. It useful to sign your comments, see Wikipedia:Signatures. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:14, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

I've added the information from the suggested Press section to the Work section. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:30, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

• A couple of points: 1. the proposed version (posted today on Talk Pages) is a reflection of several days of interaction with a couple of editors. If I take some of your points into consideration I would conflict with other editors suggestions (and vice-versa). 2. The Sao Paulo government was recognized as one of the leading players globally on foreign affairs. The data in the article is important to illustrate that. 3. I have replaced 'scholar' by 'academic', thanks. 4. Per an editor suggestion, the proposed version deletes all his contributions to the media, apart from the ones where he is a regular contributor. This is not work. The fact that he has written op-eds in all cited newspapers doesnt make him a journalist and it would be a long shot to call this work or employment., 5. the new version corrects other erroneous information - for instance he is not a diplomat (there are no sources to corroborate that statement, not even in his bios online) and the Quebec nomination as Young Leader is repeated twice in the same paragraph. 6. I believe the proposed version is a good synthesis of all editor's comments and suggestions. All the information that was not universally accepted by all the editors was deleted. Fgvwiki07
  • Fgvwiki07, I moved your signature to the end of your post.

    I agree with this revert, which makes the article much more agreeable in many ways. Drmies (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

• I have moved the former proposals to the archive with the others. Jytdog (talk) 17:50, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps a little soon to archive as discussion is active and less than a week old. I've restored some structure and information - and tried to make the article more encyclopedic.Jonpatterns (talk) 20:19, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

final revision of Rodrigo Tavares article

@Spintendo:, as I cannot edit directly, I would like to suggest the following 8 corrections and additions to the article. Im also pinging @Jytdog, Johnptterns, and SineBot: as they made recent edits in the article.

1. There is a typo in "In 2015, he founded and become president of the Granito Group”. Please use ‘became’

2. This information is incorrect: "In 2017 he was nominated as Young Global Leader by the Ministry of International Relations of Québec.” In fact, he was nominated Young Global Leader by the WEF in 2017 and in 2011 by the government of Quebec. The current sentence bundles both. I suggest correcting to:

In 2011 he was selected as Young Leader (Jeune Leder) by the Ministry of International Relations of Québec. In 2017 he was nominated Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum.

This has previously been implemented by @Spintendo:.

3. I suggest replacing this phrasing “...a holding company that owns a consulting business and a small investment bank.” by “...a holding company that owns a consulting firm (Granito & Partners), a boutique investment bank (Granito & Capital), and a think-tank (Impact Economy Foundation)”. I believe it is more precise and encyclopedic if the name of the companies are mentioned, otherwise it would look vague. Also, the terms ‘boutique bank’ (and not small) and consulting ‘firm' (and not business) are more accurate and more widely-used. You can see the three companies on www.granito.group

4. I suggest adding three articles to the list of publications:

Ashwin Kumar N C, Camille Smith, Leïla Badis, Nan Wang, Paz Ambrosy and Rodrigo Tavares, (2016), “ESG Factors and Risk-Adjusted Performance: A New Quantitative Model” in Journal of Sustainable Finance & Investment, 6 (4), p.292-300.

Tavares, Rodrigo (2011), “The Participation of SADC and ECOWAS in Military Operations: The Weight of National Interests in Decision-Making.” African Studies Review, 54 (2), p.145-176 (University of Massachusetts).

Tavares, Rodrigo (2008). “Resolving the Kashmir Conflict: India, Pakistan, Kashmiris and Religious Militants.” Asian Journal of Political Science, 16 (3), p. 276-302 (Taylor and Francis).

5. Please replace “academic papers” by “academic articles”. In scholarly terms, a paper is a very vague term and carries lower value. The correct term is article.

6. Replace “...from the University of Gothenburg” by “...from the University of Gothenburg, School of Global Studies”. This correction had previously been approved by @Spintendo:.

7. Please add that

"He writes regularly to the World Economic Forum’s Agenda and to Brazilian newsmagazine Época.”

Rodrigo is known for being a Época columnist in Brazil. The wikipedia pages of other Época colunists clearly state their connection to the magazine. It makes sense that Rodrigo’s article follows the same rule.

8. I suggesting adding this group of sentences:

Rodrigo Tavares academic work is focused on studying new forms of political and economic governance. His first publications assessed the social, economic and security impacts of regional integration and supranational arrangements. He also designed conflict resolution plans for armed conflicts.
His latest research is centered on local governments (cities, states, provinces) and their ability to become global players. He also studies capital markets and their impact on society and the environment. He has been described as “one of those rare diplomatic scholars who combine the scientific rigor of an academic and the earnest experience of a foreign policy practitioner.

References

Fgvwiki07 (talk) 14:16, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

response

1. done
2. done in part. Quebec thing is not important
3. not done. company is not noteworthy (no actual discussion of it anywhere) and this elaboration is UNDUE.
4. done
5. not done. papers, publications, potato, potatoe
6. not done. trivia.
7. not done. This is for his website. We are not here to list everyplace he has had pieces published.
8. not done aa this is WP:OR. Nothing is "latest" in Wikipedia. See WP:RELTIME

-- Jytdog (talk) 15:04, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Draft: Rodrigo Tavares into Rodrigo Tavares

Draft has additional information that is not in article, and has additional sources. Please compare and combine. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)