Talk:Rodden, Illinois

Should article be created?

The following was taken from discussions on various user talk pages.

Hey I was curious if anyone knew about anything Rodden, Illinois. You can search it on mapquest... I know there is a Rodden Road outside of Galena. I've also come across some genealogical information on people being born from or dieing in "Rodden, Illinois". I also read that there used to be a train station or something in Rodden, but beyond this stuff I have no clue.

If it merits it, I think it would be great to have an article on Wikipedia about it. But first I need info. If someone could leave a message on my talk page or e-mail me I would really appreciate it! Thanks! Chupper 15:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, first off I agree that there needs to be a page for it. How hard have you looked on the internet for information on this area? I have found that it is an unincorporated area here [1], along with this others:

• Derinda Center, Illinois
• Massbach, Illinois
• Morseville, Illinois
• New Diggins, Illinois
• Rodden, Illinois
• Schapville, Illinois
• Willow, Illinois

All of these places in all actuality will need articles, but information about them will need to be found. Here is another link. [2]. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kranar drogin (talk • contribs) 15:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

Can't believe I didn't sign my last one there, sheesh. Ok, well if you want to create stubs for all of those, you are more than welcome. Just let me know when you do so we can add them to the templates and stuff. I created the list up above as links there if you want to stub them. Also, I will be creating the township stubs for Cook County today since I see you are part of the Chicago project incase you wanted to fill them in more. Just keep an eye out there.--Kranar drogin 16:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me jumping in here, but USGS GNIS lists it as a placename [3], but doesn't define an area or size. Looking at the aerial photo, it looks like about 3 or 4 houses. I usually just mention this sort of thing in the township article, like Elizabeth Township, Jo Daviess County, Illinois. That might be the only place it needs to be mentioned unless its notable in someway. --Dual Freq 16:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for adding your comments. Kranar drogin actually found several locations that are simliar to Rodden, Illinois. (See User talk:Chupper#Rodden Illinois) The only problem I have with listing Rodden in Elizabeth, Illinois or Elizabeth Township, Jo Daviess County, Illinois is I'm not sure it's closest to Elizabeth. It seems as if it's surrounded by Elizabeth, Hanover, and Galena, and most accessible via Blackjack Road to Galena. I'd like to see it have it's own article because of this, to create a centralized place for it's history, ability to search & find it on Wikipedia (I know many people are curious about its origins), and especially to encourage edits by other users. What are your thoughts? Chupper 19:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

THere is nothing in here that states that you can not create the page for it. If you search the web hard enough, I am sure you will find someone who has done a paper on it or something, i have found some pretty amazing things on little known areas of Illinois. Other states give unincorporated villages their own articles, I don't see why Illinois can't do the same. --Kranar drogin 19:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I concur. And would say to that just about any settlement is notable enough for an article.A mcmurray 20:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

And if they were a "ghost town",A mcmurray would be the one to ask. Even though on that list, there doesn't seem to be one that is near me. I will have to investigate it a little more.--Kranar drogin 20:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Terraserver shows the USGS topographical map, Rodden is in the SE Subsection of Section 18 in Elizabeth Township. It doesn't look like much from the aerial photo, maybe an old railroad stop near the top of the grade, there can't be much to say about it. Create Rodden, Illinois as a redirect to Elizabeth Township and add the info there, then a Google search for Rodden should take readers to the township article. Wikipedia:Notability doesn't say much for localities, but a lot of pages get added and deleted here everyday. I'm a bit worried that the township articles might be considered non-notable considering the population of some of these. --Dual Freq 20:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I still don't like the idea of putting the information in Elizabeth Township. The fact that locations in this Rodden area are using Galena & Hanover zip codes & addresses makes me feel like throwing it in Elizabeth Township would only make it confusing. It seems like we have sources attributing to many towns. I still feel Rodden, Illinois should have its own article. It definitely appears as if its a ghost town. There are several of these ghost town articles on Wikipedia where the inhabitants of these towns often counts under 10 and in many times 0. Refer to - List of ghost towns in the United States. From this perspective I feel as if it should definitely merit its own article. Thoughts? Chupper 20:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Article creation

I've created the article. I'll be adding more sources. After looking at other ghost towns it definitely seems notable enough to be created compared with those. Chupper 22:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I found this website [4] that gives a contact. Maybe you can contact someone through that?--Kranar drogin 02:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)