Talk:Rockfort (Jamaica)

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Rockfort: ruins and communnity

There seems to be two Rockforts: a ruins and a community, perhaps even neighborhood. I still have to do more research. I am not yet sure if the ruins are in the community, or not. (I was making updates to the article based upon the only source with specific site information - it was still a work-in-progress.

~~I am guessing that there should be two articles. I am not sure, though, that Rockfort (Jamaica) is the correct title for the ruins.~~

~~Pinging @FloridaArmy, Sitush, and Deb: for their opinions... as well as anyone else that would like to weigh in on this.~~

~~In the meantime, I'll keep plugging away. Please don't move the page again until we've discussed it.–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:27, 28 May 2018 (UTC)~~ [reply]

~~P.S. When I search for Rockfort, Kingston, Jamaica on google maps, I don't get the neighborhood or the ruins here.–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:30, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Seems to be a community from this. Not sure if that's the same as a neighbourhood/neighborhood. But, it is small ~2,100 households–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:37, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]~~

FloridaArmy started Rockfort (Kingston, Jamaica), but there were significant issues, so I've updated that article and working on that as well, using the community info above.–CaroleHenson (talk) 03:01, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update, so you don't need to read the rest of the information:

Yes, two articles are needed.
The old fort is east of Kingston and it's titled Rockfort (Jamaica). The title is a little confusing, I wonder if it should be a parenthetical that includes the word fort, fortress, other.
There is a "community" of about 2,000 households named Rockfort and it's title is now Rockfort (Kingston, Jamaica), but I think it should be Rockfort, Kingston, Jamaica or Rockfort, Kingston.
I found what information I could find, but there is not a lot that either meet the test of a) reliable sources or b) encyclopedic content. There are quite a number of articles in archived google news, but most of it is about gang and interpersonal violence. There are a few articles that someone may be interested in: a new eco-friendly desalination plant, a community center to help improve the crime-ridden area, and a UNICEF football programs to promote non-violence among children.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:14, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rockfort, Jamaica, would be the only alternative title I can think of, but that would be misleading. You've done a great job on this so far, CaroleHenson. Deb (talk) 07:50, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Deb, I couldn't believe how hard it was to find the scant bet of info I found about these two places.–CaroleHenson (talk) 09:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rockfort Fort or Rockfort Fort and Mineral Baths would work. Or Rockfort ruins / Rockfort ruins and mineral baths. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:10, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]