Talk:Rocketman (film)

actual genre?

can anyone agree on the film's actual genre? Understandably, it IS a biographical drama, but there's also LOTS of fictional exaggerated moments as well.... Visokor (talk) 21:08, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

The current genre description of "biographical musical film" fits perfectly. -- GimmeChoco44 (talk) 19:23, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Do we need a genre for "based on a true story"?--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Length and detail of plot

I had trimmed the plot because it’s overly detailed and breaks the fourth-wall (see here), which both go against WP:Plot, however twice it has been reverted by GimmeChoco44 (see latest revert of his [here]. I’m not going to revert him a third time and risk one of us getting a strike, so taking it to here. Also tagging @Slasher405: because he added the Plot word count note. Thoughts on if my way cuts too much or if Gimme’s keeps necessary info? Cheers. TropicAces (talk) 23:44, 14 June 2019 (UTC)tropicAces

Thank you TropicAces -- I'm not opposed to trimming the plot or streamlining the description, but the previous edits have produced a version that was too choppy in the opposite extreme. I'm sure we can collectively make it better.

Ex. 1 -- Reginald doesn't change his name because he goes on the road with the American band; he changes his name because of the advice he gets. Leaving that part out is too abrupt and can add confusion to the first time reader.

Ex. 2 -- John and Taupin are forced to leave their flat because John reveals his sexuality to his female landlady. It's a direct consequence.

Ex. 3 -- The plot opens with John's flashy entrance into a therapy session. The framing device set up by this session is essential to the plot of the film and its resolution, and it should not be removed. Other films such as The English Patient and The Usual Suspects also employ the framing/flashback device as part of their Wikipedia plot descriptions. --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 07:22, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

@GimmeChoco44: My issue with opening the Plot with a framing device isn’t explaining that, it’s that in its current state it is excessively worded and needlessly specific (not to mention breaks the fourth wall; should never mention “the film opens with” or “we then see”). For example we don’t need to know his outfit, have him explain his vices (already done later in more context) or describe the scene like it’s a screenplay. How about I do a trim of the first paragraph and we’ll see if it can both trim the Plot to the word count but keep you happy with your establishing fix. Cool beans? TropicAces (talk) 14:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC)tropicAces

@TropicAces: I agree it can be trimmed, and proposing revisions here will be a lot more productive than ping-pong edits. -- GimmeChoco44 (talk) 01:43, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

@GimmeChoco44: (haha one final ping, I swear) I wrote a new intro (currently there) that I think both works to establish the flashback device/opening scene introduction but isn’t overly-detailed. Also cut out one repetitive line midway through but other than that left your previous revert in tact. Think/hope we should both be satisfied by the result! Let me know! TropicAces (talk) 01:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)tropicAces

@TropicAces: Shorter is better, and it clearly sets up the structure, so I think it's fine. Thank you. --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 03:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Excessive box office updates

Do we really need a box office update several times a week? I feel like it's excessive and also clutters up the revision history. 1x/week during the first month, or 1x/month afterwards would be sufficient to show the scope of the film's success. --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 00:46, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Evope: and @TropicAces: - this would apply to some of your recent edits. What do you think? --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 05:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Really not sure how to answer this besides “yes”, keeping a page up-to-date as possible is fine, needed and in no way clutters the history or is excessive. TropicAces (talk) 13:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC)tropicAces

More gross shows up almost daily on both box office mojo and the numbers so this isn't excessive. --Evope (talk) 22:48, 25 July 2019 (UTC)Evan Kalani Opedal

Daily Mail

Per WP:DAILYMAIL shouldn't this article ignore the tabloid lies even if Fletcher did bother to refute them? I suggest deleting it entirely. -- 109.79.69.130 (talk) 01:16, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Removed. Don't dignify this tabloid fodder. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia. -- 109.78.244.23 (talk) 23:48, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Censorship in Russia

I am missing news on the censorship in Russia where Elton John has critizised Vladimir Putin. --Melly42 (talk)

Egypt Censorship Editorializing

In the section discussing Egypt's ban of Elton John's person and this movie, the cited article from FilmStories.co.uk is quoted without having a quotation. "The movie has also been blocked in Egypt, where Elton John himself was banned from visiting back in 2010. The reason given was his “anti-religious sentiments”, although it seemed pretty clear it was more to do with his sexuality." Would it be better to ensure that that is considered editorial content, and not user submitted content? -- 2600:8807:A640:CCD:206A:40F0:8EFE:CFE7 (talk) 00:29, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

References

Home Media

Home video sales in the United States and Canada are estimated to have generated over $12.4 million as of 19 January 2020, including $5,316,171 in DVD sales and $7,089,437 in Blu-ray sales. 

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