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wanted to add a new section: "The significance of Rock and Roll for the Youth in Europe after World War II"

My revision as of 04:43, 11 June 2023 , (Added a new section. "The significance of Rock and Roll for the Youth in Europe after World War II") was reverted by C.Fred for the reason: "undue weight about a single documentary". My answer is: I understand that. But the question then is: how do I weigh what you consider "too much" or "not enough"? If I don't document enough, the article will get rejected, then if I put too much it gets rejected. Problem with this: I have found only One testimony/analysis on the subject, and if I make it too small, it will be considered a "stub". ... So how much is too much and how much is not enough? Bottomline: I could spend hours amputating the text, then your comment could then be that it is lacking in substance... Thanks J.Moondog (talk) 05:15, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: (1) I started by elaborating on the historical context, before starting to quote the testimony. ... Did I give too much context? With WW-II over 75 years behind us, the youth born in the years 2000, unless they majored in History, have no clue of the magnitude of the context of WW-II of which Tony Sheridan talks about... I simply took the time to contextualize the declarations made in the testimony. ... (2) Were my quotes too lengthy? What's the rule? ... Thanks. J.Moondog (talk) 05:30, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I finally realized that the introduction needed to be included instead in the article: Aftermath of World War II, which is done. Thanks J.Moondog (talk) 20:15, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might find that what ever Tony Sheridan has to say will not really matter in this article, that is to say in the whole scope of R&R. It might fit iin other articles. Carptrash (talk) 21:12, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just removed Tony Sheridan again, from where he was grouped in with Marty Wilde and Adan Faith. On the British charts Marty Wilde charted 14 times, Adam Faith charted 25 times, Tony Sheridan charted once, with My Bonnie in 1963, billed "and with The Beatles". He really does not belong in this article. Carptrash (talk) 04:35, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The section added a few months ago on Tony Sheridan seems to be far too long, in relation to his actual role. I'm not opposed to him being mentioned, but in no more than a sentence or so. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:17, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

terminology

could it be the rock n roll has its origin in the "rockingchair" and overdoing so in the "forward roll". does it need a rolling ship as mentioned in the article ?--Konfressor (talk) 09:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The term originates from the motion of a ship, as explained in the article, which was later used as a euphemism for sexual intercourse, before being adopted as a description of a form of music. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

so rock'n'roll is a sexual-intercourse driven music ? or more a movement driven music hardly to swing to in a rocking chair ? is it sexual music ?--Konfressor (talk) 16:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

time and order

This very long article seriously needs a table of contents. Also, what about more recent R&R, after the decline? Is rock music the same as R&R? And, is R&R always in 4/4 time? I didn't find anything about what time this kind of music is played in! 199.127.133.181 (talk) 21:52, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

why was rock and roll invented

it was invented by elves presley 204.111.27.131 (talk) 19:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a suggestion for improvement to the article? Talk pages are not for general discussion of the subject. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Undue weight on Bruno Blum

Giving over an entire paragraph and extremely long unedited quote to Bruno Blum in the "Origins" section seems excessive and biased. Literally one sentence earlier the article states that there is no consensus regarding the race and genre DNA of rock and roll, whether it was a wholesale appropriation of black music or a unique fusion of black and white styles. Then the reader is immediately after faced with the opinion of one writer that supports the former position, and which is shown more prominence than any other piece of commentary in the whole article for no apparent reason and unnecessarily expands on points already summarized earlier in the same section. If someone thought his insights were worthy of conclusion, they could easily be communicated in one or two sentences with little to no quotation. 2600:8801:7116:4400:4055:5FAD:A658:A037 (talk) 23:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]