Talk:Robert fitzRoger

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A fact from Robert fitzRoger appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 January 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that although Robert fitzRoger owed his offices to the Chancellor William Longchamp, unlike most of Longchamp's appointees, fitzRoger retained those offices after Longchamp's fall from power?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert fitzRoger.

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Template:Did you know nominations/Robert fitzRoger Ealdgyth - Talk 15:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"fitzRoger"

"fitzRoger" is not a surname, as used in the current version of this article. -Wetman (talk) 11:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But it's commonly used as a functional surname by historians. It's perfectly fine to use these sorts of patronymics as surnames for Wikipedia's purposes. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 16:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason why his children aren't listed in the infobox?
- I have no idea - the person who added the infobox didn't bother, I guess. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Should Eure be linked?
- Actually - that "lord of ..." clause was inserted here without a source ... and I just removed it. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"FitzRoger founded the monastery of Langley, Norfolk in 1195." Optional, but in UK English that would be FitzRoger founded the monastery of Langley in Norfolk in 1195.'
- Fixed. Another helpful addition from someone else. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Could we have an in line explanation of Michaelmas at first mention in the main article. Bracketed if you prefer.
- I added an explanatory footnote - as the short version was still way long. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Link sheriff.
Link Premonstratensian canons.
Link Langley.
- I linked to the abbey instead. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Orford Castle". Add 'in Suffolk'.
Link Newburn.
Link Whalton.
"one knight's fee". Explanation please.
- Linked. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gog the Mild (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- I think I got all of the above. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"was an Anglo-Norman nobleman" I can't find this in the main article.
- This one is going to have to be "the sky is blue" type of thing. He held lands and offices in Anglo-Norman England and he wasn't clergy - so the fact that he held office makes him ipso-facto a nobleman in this time. "He was considered a baron" is pretty much the big clue there. Ealdgyth (talk) 19:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, yeah. I just want you to use the phrase "Anglo-Norman" in the main article. (Or remove it from the lead.) We both know it is a given, but the rules say that if you put it in the summary - the lead - you should put at least the same information in the article.

It's there now. Ealdgyth (talk) 20:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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