Talk:Robert H. Smith School of Business

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This page seems biased, you are using Wikipedia to promote the school. Citations should be taken from US News website not from the school website which is obviously biased.

Added information about the dual degree programs. Other business schools have sections on the different kinds of degrees available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.137.25 (talk) 15:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think including information on the various student-run clubs at the Smith School can increase the school's visibility to prospective students. Such student-run clubs add to the value of the school, and can attract students by displaying the amount of involvement students have in making a difference to the school and the program, as well as the student community in general. --129.2.167.52 (talk) 00:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I feel in this page, everybody just randomly listed information. Need to organize structure. In addition, to reduce biases, need to add a reference section. 129.2.175.75 (talk) 17:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC) I added a reference section and put a template. Mtatsumi (talk) 21:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added a list of the departments in the school of business. Each department links to the department page at the school's website.Nickr14 (talk) 21:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added the programs offered by the Entrepreneurship Center. Those are programs that are in place and available to students - and many of the other department listings etc. are also factual. Can someone point out what information on the page is more biased? If that is the case we should edit to keep this relatively factual, and yet informative... By Arti Anand 207.172.96.143 (talk) 22:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it would be useful to have a brief description of the Office of Career Services. I know when I was looking at schools, I reviewed their career services center. ~~Dpatrick —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.51.209 (talk) 00:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added the History timeline to the page. This is off the following link: http://www.rhsmith.umd.edu/about/timeline.html--71.191.44.216 (talk) 00:56, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added the external link for every club in the Student Clubs and Organizations (MBA Program) section. I think it would be useful for reader to understand clubs better. I also added the BusinessWeek 2009 ranking in "Rankings" section. Also create the reference link for BusinessWeek Business School Ranking. I think ranking is very important to applicant to choose school. --Karmenpeng (talk) 02:28, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added the globalization section. Smith School of Business has a strong focus on GET- Globalization, Entrepreneurship and Technology. The school offers selectives in each of these domains which are required to complete the required number of credits to complete MBA. Due to this heavy focus, I figured it would be good to add a section on Globalization. --Anu Gupta (talk) 03:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I listed the research centers and added links to those research centers. Smith ranks in the top ten for research--68.49.197.63 (talk) 04:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added a section detailing the Class Profile for the Full Time MBA Program at Smith. (2008-2009 Entering Class) Useful for prospective student research. --Smithyy01 (talk) 05:15, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I alphabetized the Alumni section by last name since it was in random order prior to editing. --Gellman (talk) 00:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.159.249 (talk) [reply]

I added info about the other campuses at Shady Grove, Baltimore, and DC. - Abe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.175.75 (talk) 13:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Detailed listing of degree programs

It is inappropriate to include a detailed listing of degree programs in this (or any other) article. Our best guidance on college and university articles explicitly recommends against this and that is in line with this policy that lists examples of what Wikipedia is not. In short, this is an encyclopedia article that is intended to present a summary overview of the topic, not a detailed guidebook or an adjunct to the subject's own materials e.g., course catalog, webpage, directory, admissions brochures. ElKevbo (talk) 20:09, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kevin,

I understand you (reasonably) disagree. Nonetheless, "inappropriate" is the wrong characterization. I have seen inappropriate content, and this is not it. More accurately, you have a style disagreement. That's OK. You are inappropriately enforcing it as a Wikipedia policy.

I understand that writers of the UNIGUIDE essay (including yourself ElKevbo) recommend to include only aggregate summations (number of degrees offered, number of programs offered). That subset of Wikipedia editors (including yourself) presumably believe the quantity is a sufficient attribute to capture in an encyclopedia. I do not.

I believe a vertical scope of degrees (BA/BS vs MA vs PhD) is very relevant and informative, and belongs in an encyclopedia. It is a key attribute of an academic institution. Readers want that information. Furthermore, that is overview data.

I also believe the horizontal scope of degrees (descriptive and/or a sample list of majors and degrees) offered by a school is very relevant and informative, and belongs in an encyclopedia. It is a key attribute of an academic institution. The nature of academic degrees offered by a school is an appropriate level of detail to make an encyclopedia article meaningful. The articles have much more value with that information. Readers want that information. If the full list is very short, I believe it is fine include the entire list. RHS School's list was short - it had only 9 elements. Nonetheless, I preceded the list with "such as" so that the school could scale majors without necessitating a change to this article.

These vertical and horizontal scope characterizations of academic degrees are not a detailed guidebook, nor redundant to school's administrative and promotional materials (course catalog, web page, directory, admissions brochures). It is, of course, properly sourced from the school documentation - in the same way we Wikipedians source campus locations, school milestones, accreditation and the like.

I also believe a reconciliation of the offered degrees to a "standard" core set (i.e., Accounting, Finance, Marketing, etc) is very informative, and belongs in an encyclopedia. Here's an illustrative table comparing undergraduate majors/concentrations in US business schools (I tried to input correct "yes/no" values, but for this discussion it doesn't matter if those values are 100% correct):

University (School)	Accounting	Business Ethics	Real Estate	Legal Issues
U of P (Wharton)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
UMD (Smith)	Yes	No (incorporated)	No (in sister college)	No (incorporated)
Tulane (Freeman)	No	No	No	Yes

My contributed content explained why RHS School did not offer a Business Ethics major, and different reason why RHS School didn't offer a Real Estate or Economics major. That is very relevant and informative, and belongs in an encyclopedia. Readers want that information.

I see you've undone my editing contribution. Twice. I did not enjoy that. Importantly, I believe you are incorrect. In both cases, I believe the article is less for your action. Nonetheless, I allowed your 2nd reversion to stand. Not worth my energies to remediate.

- Mary Marykartowski (talk) 22:25, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]