Talk:Robert's Rules of Order/Archives/2012

Confusion

Robert's Rules is "a book containing rules of order intended to be adopted for use by a deliberative assembly." Yet it is also "designed for use in ordinary societies rather than legislative assemblies."

How is this not contradictory? LordAmeth 23:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

A deliberative assembly is not necessarily legislative. The US Senate is a legislative assembly that also deliberates. A board meeting in BP is a deliberative assembly (they deliberate and decide), but it's not legislative. krikkert (Talk) 00:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

My employer, City University of New York, requires that department (and college-wide committee) meetings be held under R.R. and we are not a legislative assembly. Robert Greer (talk) 22:02, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Delete sentences on Student Government and NFL Congressional Debate

These statements mention "Robert's Rules" in a generic way and are not specific to the focus of this article which is about the book, Robert's Rules of Order.

Many Student Government Associations at colleges and universities across the United States not only use Robert's Rules but are required to do so as part of their Student Government Constitutions.[citation needed]'

Vague statement; "required to do so" is an overreaching generalization. Even if a student government constitution has a provision adopting Robert's Rules of Order as their parliamentary authority, using the phrase "but are required to do so" is misleading. Constitutions, Bylaws, Special Rules of Order, can all override many provisions contained in Robert's Rules of Order.

It is criticized in practice on the collegiate level depending on how leniently or strictly the rules are enforced.[neutrality disputed],

This is a POV statement, not verifiable. Citation needed. One-sided statement; it implies that Robert's Rules is negatively criticized if it is either too lenient or too strict, but doesn't provide any guidance on what is "just right".

In addition, Robert's Rules are a staple of the National Forensic League event known as Congressional Debate, wherein competitors must abide by parliamentary procedure if they wish to speak.[citation needed]

The rules promoted for the NFL "Congressional Debate" depart considerably from Robert's Rules of Order. The last statement about 'parliamentary procedure' again indicates the author is talking about their view of a generic form of "Robert's Rules" and not about the book, which is the focus of this article. Therefore I propose that these statements be deleted from the article because they are not cited, not verifiable, and they are generalized statements not germane to the purpose of this article. Parlirules 04:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)