Talk:Ristorante Machiavelli/GA1

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Vacant0 (talk · contribs) 08:53, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'll be reviewing this GAN as part of the ongoing GAN backlog drive. --Vacant0 (talk) 08:53, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:29, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Initial comments

• It is possible that there is copyright violation in the article. Earwig's Copyvio Detector has reported 70% in similarity. Will analyse this in depth later in the review. False positive. Earwig again picked up quotes which are properly used in the article.
  • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:11, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• There are no cleanup banners, such as those listed at WP:QF, in the article.
  • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:11, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• The article is stable. There has not been any edit warring in the recent period.
  • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:11, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• No previous GA reviews. Went through AfD recently.
  • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:11, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

General comments

• Prose, spelling, and grammar checking.
  • No problems were found in the lede.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • What about moving Ristorante Machiavelli's menu has changed little in three decades. to the Menu section?
    • Not entirely opposed, but I see this more as an operational decision which adds historical context. I'll relocate the text if you feel strongly. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:36, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

    I could see that too... Okay, let's keep it there actually. Vacant0 (talk) 21:40, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

    Sure, thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

  • What about moving In 2022, the Booker Building was sold to the private San Francisco-based company Prado Group. to the Description section?
    • To me, this is a statement about the ownership of the building, not the restaurant specifically. While I think this is relevant context for the History section, I don't think most people would describe the restaurant based on the owners of the building in which it is housed. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • No problems were found in the rest of the article.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• Checking whether the article complies with MOS.
  • Good job on those alt texts!
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • The article complies with the MOS:LEDE, MOS:LAYOUT, and MOS:WTW guidelines. There is no fiction and embedded lists within the article, so I am skipping MOS:WAF and MOS:EMBED.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• Checking refs, verifiability, and whether there is original research.
  • References section with a {{reflist}} template is present in the article.
  • No referencing issues.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Listed references are reliable, they are mostly news websites.
    • Ref 21 is region blocked so I'll AGF on it.
    • Ref 25 cannot be loaded for some reason. It's archived, ignore this.
      • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:44, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Spotchecked Ref 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 14, 16, 18, 24, 26, 29, 33, 36, 41–all verify the cited content. AGF on other citations.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:44, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Checking potential copyright violations.
    • False positive. The quotes in the article were picked up and that is why the percentage is so high.
      • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:44, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• Checking whether the article is broad in its coverage.
  • Do we know why Ristorante Machiavelli experienced a staffing shortage in 2021, is this due to COVID?
    • I think we could assume, especially given some of the commentary in the source about the pandemic, but since COVID-19 is not specifically mentioned w/r/t Ristorante Machiavelli, I think we should avoid the assumption. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • What are the occupations of those listed in the Restaurant guides and review websites section?
    • I've noted which outlets they write for, but I do not think we should assign them any specific occupation. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • The article stays focused on the topic. The article has been vastly improved since the AfD nomination.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:42, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• Checking whether the article is presented from an NPOV standpoint.
  • The article meets the criteria and is written in encyclopedic language.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:42, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• Checking whether the article is stable.
  • As noted in the initial comments, there has not been any edit warring in the recent period.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:42, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
• Checking images.
  • All looks good, images are yours and they are properly licensed.
    • ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:42, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Final comments

Luckily enough, @Another Believer:, there is not much to fix. I'll leave the article on hold for a week and promote it once the issues get addressed. Cheers, --Vacant0 (talk) 21:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing! Please let me know if any concerns remain. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:45, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree with all your comments above; if there is no information on why it experienced a staffing shortage in 2021 it should be kept as it is in the article. Promoting this to GA then.

P.S. this kind of a GAN is interesting to read. Vacant0 (talk) 21:49, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I've also nominated Bipartisan Cafe, if you're interested in a similar entry. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.