Talk:Ringworld's Children

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Spoilers

This article is nothing but spoilers. I was looking for information on the order of the books in the series and I run into several spoilers. I feel that the page should be either rewritten or marked for spoilers, but I am apparently not allowed to put a warning on the page. The best solution is to rewrite the page, but as I am both new to editing Wikipedia and I have not yet read all the books in the series, I can not do this myself. Perhaps I am just being difficult, but I do not feel that I am. To me this is important.

There is some interesting information but it is not explained very well or written in such a way as to not reveal plot elements. I realize this is considered classic fiction and therefore spoilers are supposedly not a big deal, however I do maintain that they should be written more tactfully. I mean no disrespect, it is merely my opinion.

IndolentSpecies (talk) 04:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The cite is the book itself

The description is accurate.

For the casual reader and the not hardcore Niven fan, The Ringworld sequels are actually better thought of as "chapters" or episodes in the entire Ringworld Story. Niven has never been able to match the "Sense of Wonder" and grandeur of the Ringworld novel itself.

The plot summary is not a plot summary

Can someone please create a proper plot summary? The existing plot summary is more like a literary analysis and contains nothing at all about the plot.Pmarshal (talk) 21:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hyperspace creatures: Comma Shaped chunk of the wall eaten by monster = explicit, not casual.

This novel contains more than just "casual" confirmation of the hyperspace monster idea. The concept is initially presented as such, when the hindmost is seen to be neither shocked nor surprised when Tunesmith presents the idea in very vague and imprecise terms ("we find life everywhere...." or something similar). However the confirmation is more pronounced when the "comma shaped" object flies above the surface of the ringworld, while in hyperspace, and "eats" a comma shaped chunk of the Scrith wall, causing the nearby spill mountains to boil into space. More than that, the author intentionally chose descriptive language like "gaping maw" for references to singularities in this, and later, in-universe publications. Neglecting the explicit reference to the comma-shaped hyperspace monster eating part of the wall, the descriptive language and vague references by the characters is not "casual." Its "indirect" or "vague" or "nonspecific." Casual suggests that the claim is made off-hand, as without further elaboration by the characters or by subsequent segments of the plot, suggesting that the concept was somehow assumed to be already established and therefore a piece of "common" or "casually known" knowledge.184.189.220.114 (talk) 18:06, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]