Talk:Riley Wuz Here

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I'm not sure what happened to this talk page but I'd like to make some changes to the end of this article. The plot line is incorrect.

1 - The portrait that Riley paints on Grandad's house is undeniably Grandad:

A - Grandad is unconvinced that Riley is the artist. Once Riley sees that Grandad doesn't believe him (from the conversation they had in the house)Riley's sole concern seems to switch to making Grandad believe.

B - The photo album that Riley takes the reference picture from is an album that would seem to be far older than his parents wedding album would be. The pictures are in black and white, the car with the "just married" sign is an older model car and the photos themselves are the older style with the ruffled like edges. These all point to the reference photo being of grandads wedding as opposed to his parents.

C - The portrait he paints itself looks like the grandad that we see in the flashbacks. In the flashbacks before this episode, grandad is always shown wearing glasses. In the flashbacks in the episodes after this one (Wingman) Grandad is shown without glasses multiple times. The portrait painted looks like the grandad in the flashbacks excpet he is blushing.

2 - Once Riley paints this portrait, he no longer references any concern for having the other people acknowledge that he is the artist.--Bigpapirick 16:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only way it would be "undeniable" that the painting was of Robert and his wife would be if there was a creator commentary for this episode. If anything I would say it's inconclusive but it leans more towards being Riley's parents than anything else. A lot of your supporting arguments are circumstantial. The wedding album could have easily been Robert's with pictures of his son's wedding put in it. Second, the model of the car is kind of suspect because it could have been a hand me down to his son or his son could have bought a vintage model. People buy old model cars all the time, especially if they can't afford newer models. The pictures being black and white isn't strong evidence either, since black and white photos can still be taken with cameras. Also, I'm not sure if it was ever said in the strip if Robert had a son or a daughter, but if he had a son they would look almost alike around the same age. We never see a flashback to Riley's grandparents when they were younger but it wouldn't make sense logically that he would paint a picture of a grandmother he never knew. In "Guess Hoe's Coming to Dinner," Huey comments there was a time when he was around three that he thought Granddad was gay, but then he realized it was just bad luck. This would imply that Robert's wife had died before Huey and Riley were born, and if Huey wasn't old enough to have any memories of her, Riley definitely wouldn't be old enough. The art tutor told Riley to paint a picture of "someone you love, maybe someone who isn't with us anymore." Riley would have more of a connection to his parents than a grandmother who died before he was born, and a painting of Robert's dead son and daughter-in-law would be just as emotionally moving, if not more so, than one of Robert and his wife.--Iron emperor (talk) 21:31, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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