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Layout

Ridley, like Moore College in Sydney is Anglican and focused on theological training, with that in mind I added the box thingy.Knobbly 20:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Things this article needs

Add or subtract things from this list:

Correct College Crest
Information about degrees
Information about buildings
More Photos of the campus. Leon Morris etc

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Knobbly (talk • contribs) 21:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Naming Issues

This is linked in some ways to the residential / theological aspect. Ridley's offical name I think is 'Ridley Theological College' not Ridley College (University of Melbourne). Knobbly 00:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The official name is just Ridley College like the website. I think the bracket containing (University of Melbourne) is used for consistency with other colleges associated with Uni Melb and maybe to disambiguate from other possible Ridley colleges.Wai Hong 08:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is the tricky question because is Ridley, first and foremost a theological college or a residential college, and which should the title of the article emphasise?Knobbly 20:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think we have another problem - it probably shouldn't say "(University of Melbourne)" at all now. I am not so convinced that Ridley College is first and foremost a theological college - look at their website - accommodation comes first, followed by theology.

Also they do not really identify themselves as "Ridley Theological College" and are simply know as "Ridley College" in the community. On google.com.au, pages from Australia search "Ridley College" gets about 16,400 hits vs about 328 hits from "Ridley Theological College".

Since there is another "Ridley College" in Canada which took the Wiki name first, how about "Ridley College Melbourne"? TomGW 20:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I propose Ridley College (Melbourne), and also point the Ridley Theological College redirection there. Since there's a little disagreement, I'm putting in a proper RM. De Guerre 00:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ridley has recently changed its name & branding and I've moved the page to reflect this.ArthurChance (talk) 06:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was Moved per request Duja► 12:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ridley College (University of Melbourne) → Ridley College (Melbourne) — Ridley College is no longer affiliated with the University of Melbourne. The alternative suggested name is Ridley Theological College. —De Guerre 01:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Discussion

Any aditional comments:

One more thing. Once we've settled on a name for this page, we should probably propose a RM for Ridley College (making it Ridley College (school) or something), and turn Ridley College into a disambiguation page. Judging by Google results alone, there are only two institutions in the world called "Ridley College", and while the one in Melbourne is the more prominent of the two. Regardless, proposing that the main page become a dab is being a nicer citizen. De Guerre 01:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- I moved this one per request; however, we normally avoid 2-item dab pages: in this way, a) it's pretty much guaranteed that someone will erroneously link to it and b) without the dab page, at least 50% people who search will arrive at the deseired page, while no one would otherwise. Just pick the more famous of the two (no matter how small difference) and let it be the primary target. Duja► 12:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, I certainly don't mind if Ridley College (Melbourne) occupies Ridley College, but I'm pretty sure the Ridley College people won't be so happy. TomGW (talk) 17:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 8 March 2016

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 16:42, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ridley Melbourne → Ridley College (Melbourne) – The College has changed its name, a duplicate article has been created over a redirect at Ridley College, Melbourne - note Melbourne is not part of the name. There is an existing redirect at Ridley College (Melbourne) -- Paul foord (talk) 08:02, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support per change of name (and I suspect it was the common name before anyway). I think Ridley College should now be a disambiguation page, but that would be a separate discussion. St Anselm (talk) 08:38, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per St Anselm. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 10:53, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
support per usual practice. I would agree that disambiguating Ridley College would be in order. Mangoe (talk) 15:03, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move discussion

There is a move discussion going on that is of relevance to this page; Talk:Ridley College#Requested move 16 March 2016 proposes making Ridley College a disambiguation page. St Anselm (talk) 07:01, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that Ridley College (Melbourne) be renamed and moved to Ridley College.

result:
Procedural close. This request will be integrated into the request at Talk:Ridley College#Requested move 23 May 2023. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 01:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move logs: source title · target title

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Ridley College (Melbourne) → Ridley College – This is an institute of higher education, whereas the current Ridley College article is a K-12 school. I can't see how a K-12 school deserves to be the main term while a university-level institution doesn't – so, I think the two articles should be swapped in terms of which one is the main term. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 20:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This move request is malformed as it doesn't account for where to move the article currently at Ridley College. In addition, a title swap would not make sense since the subject currently at Ridley College has no association with any subject named "Melbourne". Steel1943 (talk) 21:35, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, please excuse the malformedness. What I was suggesting is something like: "Ridley College (Melbourne)" → "Ridley College", "Ridley College" → "Ridley College (Ontario)" (or "(Canada)" or "(K-12 school)" or whatever). I'm just not sure of the mechanics of proposing that. Do I have to propose the two page moves separately, or can I somehow do them both together? SomethingForDeletion (talk) 23:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I created another move request to move the other Ridley College out–Talk:Ridley College#Requested move 23 May 2023. I don't know if I should withdraw this one until the outcome of that one is determined? SomethingForDeletion (talk) 23:56, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Ridley College which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 01:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]