A fact from Richard Knill Freeman appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 March 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Richard Knill Freeman, who designed British churches, hospitals, municipal buildings, schools and museums, also designed a church in Moscow in the 1880s?
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Having read the reference I can see not information relating to buildings in the UK outside of the the North West of England. Therefore using the term British Isles is misleading (anything in Wales, Scotland, Ireland...?). Secondly, using the term can be seen in several cities of the north-west of England could also be considering misleading as there is only two cities mentioned in the reference (Preston & Manchester). Bjmullan (talk) 19:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You haven't looked that far, perhaps. The article (begun just two days ago) already specifies Blackpool, Southport and Bolton; you've found Preston and Manchester. If you look at the linked webpage -- and the pdf list of Freeman's work linked on from that -- you'll find more examples both in the northwest and elsewhere. By all means add further examples yourself, and if you think "throughout the British Isles" is inaccurate, rephrase it! Andrew Dalby10:44, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As Blackpool, Southport and Bolton (the largest in the UK!) are all towns I have added towns to the sentence. I have also changed British Isles to UK which is a more accurate description. Hope this is OK? Bjmullan (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, Bjmullan, you're quite right that "cities" was inaccurate. I must be forgetting my British dialect. As for "UK", we could discuss it for some time, because Dublin was part of the UK then! The main thing is, the article's improving. Andrew Dalby21:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've reverted you. You are obviously trying to provke an edit war. My original revert was in line with BRD, your subsequent revert wasn't. Why do you persist in trying to remove British Isles from Wikipedia? The point you make about the competition may be valid, but what do you know about this subject? You are not trying to improve this article, you are just trying to get rid of British Isles. LemonMonday Talk 21:44, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That project is dead. If you have something to bring to this article bring it here. I will fact tag this and remove it later in line with WP policy. Have a nice day. Bjmullan (talk) 22:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For editors wondering what the hell is going here it may be helpful if I provide some background. For a few years now a determined bunch of editors have been trying to remove instances of British Isles for purely political reasons. This has caused enormous disruption, spreading throughout the project. As a result, sanctions have been imposed which ban the addition or deletion of the term "British Isles" without agreement at the so-called British Isles Specific Examples page, here. User:Bjmullan has, over the last few days, restarted the campaign to remove British Isles, claiming that the sanctions no longer apply; in fact they do. Consequently he is currently in breach of them. Unfortunately he has targetted this article. It is unclear why he has done so. Out of thousands of articles that link British Isles maybe it's just bad luck that this one has come to his attention. Of course it may be correct not to reference British Isles, but it makes sense if editors who know what they are talking about make the decision, rather than it being left to someone with a political axe to grind. LemonMonday Talk 23:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That would explain the energy being wasted arguing over 2 or three words when the article lacks a 100s. thanks for the heads up and thank you for managing these issues Victuallers (talk) 23:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC) OOps just read your talk page. Not sure who is who and I care more about editting than playing games. Victuallers (talk) 23:27, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No games being played here. I've been accused of sockpuppetry several times by a single British Isles deletionist, and been blocked on numerous occasions as a result of the fall-out. I'm not trying to add British Isles, nor stop its removal where it's genuinely being used incorrectly (as may be the case here). I just don't think it's appropriate that POV pushers should work their way through Wikipedia removing terms they don't like. LemonMonday Talk 23:34, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you care anything about the wiki you would forget trivial things like this and go and find something important to do. I will not edit again here. Please do not waste time replying Victuallers (talk) 23:43, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No need to throw your toys out of the pram. Using the term " throughout the British Isles" for a guy who build building mainly in and around the north-west of England is misleading and after all this is an encyclopaedia. If no evident is produced to support this statement it will be changed for the better of the project. Bjmullan (talk) 22:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
