Talk:Republicopteron

A fact from Republicopteron appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 October 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the katydid-like fossil Republicopteron douseae possibly could not sing?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Republicopteron.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 12:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the katydid-like fossil Republicopteron douseae possibly couldn't sing? Source: Archibald, S. B.; Gu, J.-J.; Mathewes, R. W. (2022) "Republicopteron douseae new species-...no stridulatory file detected on CuPb"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Colonel Bailey's Dungeon
- Comment: Started review on Colonel Bailey's Dungeon before nominator withdrew nom

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 13:54, 3 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Republicopteron; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Prose size (text only): 6841 characters (1049 words) "readable prose size", Article created by Kevmin on February 19, 2023, Article moved from User:Kevmin/sandbox/Republicopteron on September 3, 2023, Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 16 edits ago on May 19, 2023. That all sounds OK. Two problems: QPQ was not completed, as the nom was withdrawn before much work was done. Also, maybe it's me, but I cannot find the hook in the article. It has no mention of sing, sound, silent, chirp, noise... only "stridulatory file". I think it should be explained in the article in a manner clear enough for standard users who are not paleoentomologists. I also cannot confirm the source, it's not even on SciHub. awkwafaba (📥) 17:17, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was suspicious the review might be rejected, so here is another Template:Did you know nominations/Cyrtodactylus santana review.
Can you please clarify what you are you asserting with your last sentence? That the article is not currently available on Scihub is of what relevance to its peer review publication by Zootaxa. I will note in the article prose that a stridulatory file is the method that orthopterans use to sing and chirp.--Kev min § 18:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I figured you would have no problem finding an alternate QPQ, but I did ask on Discord first. Regarding the latter, I cannot access the cited journal article. I tried at the ZooTaxa link indicated as well as SciHub. Therefore I cannot verify that the taxon does not have a stridulatory file. awkwafaba (📥) 20:01, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

regarding the journal issue, DKY specifically has the DYKtickAGF tick mark for cases where sourcing is paywalled or offline, so I am confused as to why you feel this is being brought up?--Kev min § 20:41, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a paleobiology section discussing stridulation and the lack of the files on Republicopteron forewings--Kev min § 23:13, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

not sure why i couldn’t mention that the source is inaccessible, and am puzzled as to why mentioning it is so confusing. This is literally part of the process, and should not be surprising that a reviewer might want to see it or inquire about alternate access options. In any event, i see the new additions to the article and they look good. Hook approved. awkwafaba (📥) 12:33, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]