Talk:Renaissance Pleasure Faire of Southern California

Passing the Torch

I am unable to improve the writing herein. I hope someone takes up the revision before the page is flagged for deletion. I meant to light the torch, not see it to the finish line. Im.marcus (talk) 06:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I started some cleaning on it. Does anyone know why Burning Man is a link on this? James1906 (talk) 02:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I couldn't find a good reference to link the Ren Faire culture from Southern California to Burning Man. It may be unimportanted but the events are influenced by each other as many people attend both. I understand that the same could be said about, for instance, the Orange Show but Burning Man has a stronger correlation when it comes to fashion trends, attitudes and the performing arts therein. (Im.marcus (talk) 06:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC))

Self Published Sources

There is a notice on this page stating that it might contain self published sources. I would like to note that this is the first artical I have written in any medium. Therefore as of today, it is an impossibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Im.marcus (talk • contribs) 06:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Too Much Spam!

This page has 88 links to advertising sites related to this faire. All of the footnotes are links, and they all seem to link to commercial sites. The actual information is sparse, and the article is mostly a huge list of acts and merchandisers. It needs a lot of improvement. Artemis-Arethusa (talk) 14:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

So let's improve the article before deleting it. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 15:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Ever reasonable. Thanks. Artemis-Arethusa (talk) 15:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

There's a first shot. Gotta look around to see if we can find a legit image to use here. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 15:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Missing Controversies?

In the early days of the Pleasure Faire, there was significant conflict over who owned the rights to the Faire. The first few Faires were organized under the auspices of KPFK, but one couple, Ron and Phyllis Patterson did much of the organizing work to make the Faire happen. This led to a dispute over ownership of the name "Pleasure Faire," which was won by the Pattersons. There was a lot of bad feeling over this in the next few years, but like most such disputes the participants eventually went on to other things and only a low-level of grumbling remained.

I have the feeling that this article was written by people having a "junior moment" -- that is, they are too young to remember the early history of the Faire. However, I am unable to find "authoritative" sources. I did find the following with a quick Google search:

Pacifica Radio: the Rise of an Alternative Network, by Matthew Lasar Bgoldnyxnet (talk) 00:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

No sources, so it's not getting in. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 00:33, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Sources

This article currently relies extensively on the website of the company which produces the faire. This is not an acceptable reliable source for anything other than the statements (properly attributed of the company itself). The other main source is a self published website/fan site/promotional site. Again this is not what qualifies as a reliable source on WP. The other sources include a book apparently held by only one library in the world, not necessarily a bad source but not exactly a notable publication from a publisher with a reputation for fact checking. This leaves two articles that are basically event listings, one from a college newspaper. The other is from a reputable newspaper.

The good news is I have added four articles from major newspapers that contain substantial information about the subject of the article. A much improved article could be written based on these sources. Personally I would draft a brand new article in User/Draft space and just replace the entire thing. I don't know if I have the time or interest for this, but I hope someone does! - - MrBill3 (talk) 10:42, 12 June 2014 (UTC)