Talk:Religious views of Abraham Lincoln
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Religious views of Abraham Lincoln article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 3 months |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
"Saviour of the world"
[edit]"We further say, that with however much care selections may be made, there will be some unfaithful and dishonest in both classes. The experience of the whole world, in all by-gone times, proves this true. The Saviour → of the world chose twelve disciples, and even one of that small number, selected by superhuman wisdom, turned out a traitor and a devil. And, it may not be improper here to add, that Judas carried the bag---was the Sub-Treasurer of the ← Saviour and his disciples."
The above quote is from a Lincoln speech about the Sub-Treasury, 12/26/1839, the text of which is found at http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=lincoln;cc=lincoln;type=simple;rgn=div1;q1=Saviour;singlegenre=All;view=text;subview=detail;sort=occur;idno=lincoln1;node=lincoln1%3A193#hl1. It's in the UMich "Collected works of Abraham Lincoln".
In this case, the Saviour of the world can only refer to Jesus.
never made a standard profession
[edit]Although there is no evidence that Lincoln became an official church member, his Christian profession was rather explicit in his writings and declarations: AbrahamLincolnOnline has collected a sample of these that makes the case clear http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/faithquotes.htm
Lincoln's 1864 account of his conversion and his profession "I do love Jesus" are about as standard a profession as one can ask for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilltoppers (talk • contribs) 22:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- the 1864 account of his conversion and his profession "I do love Jesus" first appeared in a sermon by a Wisconsin Baptist minister who never knew Lincoln. No one ever claimed to have heard Lincoln make such a statement. In his authentic statements Lincoln almost never mentions Jesus. See Paul F. Boller Jr, and John George They Never Said It: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attributions: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attributions (Oxford University Press, 1989.) p 91 looks at the evidence and concludes, "It is highly unlikely that Lincoln ever said anything like it." Rjensen (talk) 05:59, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- C-Class biography articles
- C-Class biography (politics and government) articles
- Low-importance biography (politics and government) articles
- Politics and government work group articles
- WikiProject Biography articles
- C-Class politics articles
- Mid-importance politics articles
- WikiProject Politics articles
- C-Class United States articles
- Low-importance United States articles
- C-Class United States articles of Low-importance
- C-Class United States Presidents articles
- Low-importance United States Presidents articles
- WikiProject United States Presidents articles
- C-Class US State Legislatures articles
- Low-importance US State Legislatures articles
- WikiProject US State Legislatures articles
- C-Class United States Government articles
- Low-importance United States Government articles
- WikiProject United States Government articles
- WikiProject United States articles
- C-Class Religion articles
- Low-importance Religion articles
- WikiProject Religion articles