Talk:Religious profession

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On 4 September 2020, it was proposed that this article be moved from Religious profession to Religious profession in Catholicism. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Requested move

"Profession (religious)" is ambiguous and can be (indeed, has been) confused with Profession of Faith, the subject of a separate article (Creed). "Religious profession" is a recognized technical term, as shown by the quote from an authoritative source. Lima 11:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious. I don't see that "religious profession" is one iota less ambiguous. Gene Nygaard 15:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A move request for this article was placed at Wikipedia:Requested moves, but there was no consensus for the article to be moved. Dekimasu よ! 14:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC) nor was there opposition. Lima 14:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 August 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. It has been suggested the article should deal/include other aspects, and not just Catholic. This should be done after discussion at relevant talkpage(s). Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 04:44, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Religious profession → Religious profession in Catholicism – While this article is only linked to my what appear to be Catholic institutions, a "religious profession" in itself is not Catholic, and is rather synonymous with a creed. This move reflects that this article only is relevant to the Catholic tradition and frees up the article space to redirect to creed instead, as again, a profession of religious adherence and a creed are really quite synonymous. ItsPugle (please use {{ping|ItsPugle}} on reply) 14:11, 4 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – I see what you're trying to say, but a reading of Creed and Religious profession seems to suggest that they discuss different topics despite the similar names, and are not synonymous. Creed discusses the general declaration of belief in the tenets of a religion, whereas Religious profession discusses the practice of an already-Catholic individual dedicating themselves to some advanced ascetic form of life. The current arrangement to handle distinct topics that could have similar names is the most appropriate per WP:NATURALDIS and WP:NCDAB, and there is no specific need to free up the article just to be used as a redirect. In addition, given that they are distinct and are not subsets of each other, then I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to rename this article that would imply it to be a subset of Creed. Lastly, the meaning of "the practice of an already-Catholic individual dedicating themselves to some advanced ascetic form of life" already appears to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the term "religious profession" without further qualification - a casual search for "religious profession" seems to bring me to pages that use this meaning, not that of Creed. I hope this makes sense! Epistulae ad Familiares (talk) 17:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Expand the article to deal the whole topic, not just the Charolic one (POV). --79.50.143.229 (talk) 15:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.