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Aviation services & organizations relevance and limitations in airport article

This article has recently had edits swinging from the extremes of self-advertising a business to removal of all links to any kind of business. Let me post a reminder that on-field aviation organizations and services are a valid and relevant part of the description of an airport. Since the airport operator (Santa Clara County Roads and Airports Dept in this case) does not provide all the aviation services available on-field, businesses which do provide them are part of the description of the airport. However, according to guidelines in WP:SPAM and WP:LINKS, such links are allowed but need to be presented equally and in an appropriate and neutral manner. None can be allowed to stand out from the others, etc. For this article that basically means links to on-field organizations and businesses may be included in the External links section or, for FBOs, in the FBOs section. Non-profit organizations must have recurring activity based on-field to be relevant. The only other one is Google Transit in the ground transportation section for obvious relevance - they have VTA route/schedule data and even VTA uses them for transit travel computation. Ikluft (talk) 16:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the same reason that Google Transit is relevant, so are brokers of other transportation services that serve Reid-Hillview Airport. I would like to propose adding an Air Taxi Services section just like the FBO section, so that community members can find more value in RHV as a extremely useful transporatation asset. A short list of air taxi brokers and operators who serve the airport regularly could be added with external links because they represent valuable service available to the airport's users, just as many Wikipedia airport pages list major airlines serving larger airports. It might be best if the County airport administrators add the list of links based on their knowledge of air taxi brokers and operators that regulary book flights to/from RHV. Guerrid (talk) 04:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are not allowed to add your own business' link because it would be a conflict of interest. Submit links on the talk page and other editors will evaluate them. Ikluft (talk) 04:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation services & organizations relevance and limitations in airport article

Is probably useful to note that on-field aviation organizations and services are a valid and relevant part of the description of an airport. Since the airport operator (Santa Clara County Roads and Airports Dept in this case) does not provide all the aviation services available on-field, businesses which do provide them are part of the description of the airport. However, according to guidelines in WP:SPAM and WP:LINKS, such links are allowed but need to be presented equally and in an appropriate and neutral manner. None can be allowed to stand out from the others, etc. For this article that basically means links to organizations and businesses that regulary serve the airport and provide significant value to it may be included. Organizations must have recurring activity based on-field to be relevant. Google Transit and other transportation brokers should also be allowed for the obvious benefit to multi-modal transportation efficiency and due to their contribution to the airport's overall usefullness as a regional transportation asset. Guerrid (talk) 06:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Ikluft (talk) 16:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One or more users of Wikipedia would like to propose adding an "Air Taxi Services" section similar to the FBO section, so that community members can find more value in RHV as a extremely useful transporatation asset. A short list of air taxi brokers and operators who serve the airport regularly could be added with external links because they represent valuable service available to the airport's users, just as many Wikipedia airport pages list major airlines serving larger airports. Guerrid (talk) 04:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An interested party is not allowed to add one's own business' link because it would be a conflict of interest. Therefore, it would be most appropriate for a disinterested party to add the links. It might be best if the County airport administrators add the list of links based on their knowledge of air taxi brokers and operators that regulary book flights to/from RHV.Guerrid (talk) 09:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alum Rock Airport 1936 ref - not RHV predecessor, but worthy of its own article?

An editor found a reference to an "Alum Rock Airport" from a copy of a 1936 federal Airport/Facility Directory (pre-dating the FAA) at http://www.oldbeacon.com/beacon/afd1936/pp-26-27.jpg . I reverted the edit to the RHV article's history section which made an assumption that this was the same airport as the Reids' original pre-RHV field. Based on the description, Alum Rock Airport had to be a separate airstrip. The AF/D shows two airports in San Jose in 1936, "Alum Rock Airport" at 37° 22' N 121&deg 50' W and "San Jose Airport" at 37° 20' N 121&deg 50' W. This is decades before Ernie Renzel established San Jose Municipal Airport which later became San Jose International Airport. What the 1936 AF/D calls the "San Jose Airport" is just off US 101 near RHV's current coordinates, and matches the description of the location of the Reids' original field, which was demolished to build the highway and then relocated nearby to the east, where RHV is today.

Note: these coordinates from 1936 have about 1/2 mile rounding error - it was 50 years before GPS satellites were beginning to be launched.

So the Alum Rock Airport was history I hadn't heard before. I found info at the East San Jose New Neighborhood Voice (NNV) from 2006 where they did some research on it. See http://www.nnvesj.org/Y06/Ed40/Edition40S2.htm#Ed40B5 and http://www.nnvesj.org/Y06/Ed40/ARAirport.htm . NNV put the pieces together so that it looks like Pala Avenue in the Alum Rock neighborhood of San Jose is nearly or exactly on the original runway. And strangely-named Avenues A, B and C appear to have been named from taxiways A, B and C at the airport. Since there are these remnants remaining today and documentation, I'm thinking this could qualify for its own article. A review of the notability guidelines looks like it does, since it has secondary sources which address it directly. What do others think? Ikluft (talk) 23:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds to me like it's worthy of a separate article, but it's hard to tell without seeing it written up. In the worst case we could always merge the material back into this article. --Stepheng3 (talk) 23:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, here's an initial effort at it - Alum Rock Airport. See what you can add. Ikluft (talk) 03:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine to me. Thanks, --Stepheng3 (talk) 03:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1980s crash and shutdown controversy

The article on airports states there was a plane in the 80s that crashed into a Macy's department store and prompted demands to close the airports. The statement isn't cited, so I'm not copying it over, but if accurate and cited, this should be added to the history section of the article.

97.113.77.20 (talk) 17:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Science and colonialism

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 January 2023 and 24 March 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Bnirula (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Bnirula (talk) 06:38, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]