Talk:Red-rimmed melania

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Apparent factual discrepency regarding "Number of whorls"

The fact sheet states "10-15 whorls".

Reference ^[1] states "typically five in number".

The photographs (and my experience of imported specimens) also suggests 5 is more typical (in captivity and assuming correctly idenitied!).

Could a subject expert please review/qualify this?

"Inappropriate" links or inappropriate behavior?

The following external link has been deleted bvy User:MidgleyDJ as "inappropriate": (The Skeptical Aquarist) Malaysian trumpet snails. It contains sourced material and further links that would improve Wikipedia's distinctly sub-par article. I thought it was removed simply because it is my website, but now I see the same User deleted the following external links as "inappropriate":

The Aquarium Wiki - MTS

There seems to be a pattern in this behavior, from a User who has not contributed text to this article. Merely pointless? Or what? --Wetman 15:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wetman, Wikipedia has a policy on external links WP:EL. Basically they need at add something unique to the article, beyond that which would be included if the article was of Featured Article quality. The links you cite above do not contain content which is unique or should not be present in a future WP:FA version of the article. Sure, I've not contributed text to this article, but that isnt a requirement for me to edit an article. Please dont take the removal of external links personally, it certainly wasnt meant that way. It might be worth you reading over Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Cheers, David. MidgleyDJ 20:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A quick glance at the texts presented in the deleted links would show MidgleyDJ that he is mistaken. Some of the material he dismisses on principle would improve a mediocre stub if it were worked into the Wikipedia text— not by MidgleyDJ, needless to say: I've noted the deletions above, as a starting-point for an alert editor. --Wetman 21:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A quick glance at the text Wetman, suggests to me some of should be included as references for content, rather than external links. I've no idea what an alert editor is - but I was certainly acting in good faith in removing the articles. MidgleyDJ 21:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure it doesn't matter either way. Let's just focus on improving the article and move on, eh? At least one of the removed references had much useful information and has been worked into the revised article more than once. The others seemed to be mostly about snails in aquaria, and as such a book about aquarium snails seemed much better to me, so I used that as a reference. Incidentally, I moved the articles to a different common name because it appears that the "MTS" name was basically only used by aquarists, and then only in certain placed (Malayan livebearing snail is at least as commonly used). Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 22:05, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite

Hello. I've rewritten the article, specifically added references, transferred focus from aquarium stuff to actual biology and agri/medical significance. Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 16:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's a more positive approach. --Wetman 21:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ University of Southern Mississippi/College of Marine Sciences/Gulf Coast Research Laboratory (2005-08-03). "Fact Sheet for Melanoides tuberculata (Müller, 1774)". Gulf States Marine Fisheries Commission. Retrieved 2007-04-08.

[GulfStateMarine-1] University of Southern Mississippi/College of Marine Sciences/Gulf Coast Research Laboratory (2005-08-03). "Fact Sheet for Melanoides tuberculata (Müller, 1774)". Gulf States Marine Fisheries Commission. Retrieved 2007-04-08.

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