Talk:Reckitt/Archives/2016

Massacre

User:Hellchosun please describe why the section header should say "Massacre". Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 09:41, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Jytdog! hey don't bother me. Massacre is proper word. Do you really know this dirty evil massacre?? Last chance! don't bother me wiki freak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellchosun (talk • contribs) 09:54, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

"Don't bother me" is not an option in Wikipedia. You need to justify why "massacre" is appropriate in Wikipedia. Jytdog (talk) 09:57, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Separate page for humidifier deaths

The humidifier death issue has become a big issue in South Korea. Some sources say that they are responsible for over 200 deaths nationwide. I would recommend creating a new page about the controversy.

Holidayruin (talk) 22:16, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

That seems unneccessary. The current content is neutral and well sourced. Jytdog (talk) 23:12, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

I believe there really should be a dedicated article about the case(s), titled Humidifier disinfectant incidents in South Korea (to be interwikied to ko:가습기 살균제 사건), because:

• Although Oxy RB's product have caused most victims, there are deaths and injures also caused by similar disinfectants from rival companies.
• The RB HQ just acquired the South Korean company in 2001, years after Oxy released their product.
• In fact, Oxy was not the first company to release such product: it was what is now a division of SK Innovation, predating Oxy's.

JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 07:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

We WP:SPLIT naturally when the content becomes too big to fit where it is now. That is not the case. Also the bigger story should probably be told in Polyhexamethylene guanidine. I find it hard to believe that this issue has only arisen in one country by one company. Jytdog (talk) 07:38, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

In that case, the article about the incidents could focus on what did the companies (including Oxy, Cefu, Lotte Mart, SK, etc.) do during the event of controversy (like an attempt to hide the truth, refusing to take responsibility, do-not-buy campaigns, etc.). JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 14:29, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

According to the PHMG page, it was sold as a water tank sterliser, but was widely misused by the public as a water additive. The Oxy brand was launched in 1996 - as has been noted, not the first such product - but RB did not actually acquire the company until 2001. Seems they were sold a lemon. Nick Cooper (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes in response to this thread I did some digging and found a recent review in the biomedical literature on PHMG; apparently it was only used on S Korea and Russia and in different ways. Jytdog (talk) 16:26, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Actually...

• A division of what is now OCI (company) released detergent product branded as Oxy Clean in 1980s (which predates similar U.S. product launched in 1997). The division was spun off into a separate company, Oxy, in December 1990. (The company did launch their own humid. disinfectant product in 1996, though.)
• 'Water additive' was what the manual instructed as so (Korean), not the average Kim's misuse.

JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 15:57, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

a) All dates which pre-date RB's acquisition of the company, which is the main point. RB did not introduce this product to market, because they didn't own Oxy in 1996, so we shouldn't go over-the-top on RB's culpability.

b) Come back when you have an independent and accurate translation into English.Nick Cooper (talk 10:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

• My english is not good. please understand. In fact most important problem is that RB korea fabricate the toxicity test results. and they ignored victim before 5years. other company is just copycat. and they did not fabricate the toxicity test results. so I think it will be not separation. 223.62.203.100 (talk) 11:30, 18 June 2016 (UTC)