Talk:Rebeca Andrade/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sportsfan77777 (talk · contribs) 08:01, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 08:01, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A general issue is that while you may do a good job of listing out all of her accomplishments year to year, there should be summaries in each subsection (probably at the beginning, or maybe at the end) that synthesize the results in that subsection. Without that, it is not so clear how good or bad each year was, or potentially what was the significance of the events that aren't the Olympics or Worlds, or which event she is focusing on or did the best in (if any). Along those lines, it may also be worth combining more pairs or sets of years together, as the summaries may be better suited to cover multiple years.

Beyond the summaries, a lesser similar issue is that the flow is also not always the best. It seems like most subsections are commonly strung together as "She competed at Competition 1. She won [insert color] medal in Event A and finished #th in Event B. She then entered Competition 2, and won [insert color] medal in Event B and finished #th in Event C". Improving the flow a bit might go hand-in-hand with adding the summaries.

I don't have any gymnastics examples of what I mean by summaries, but here are some tennis examples:

With Simona Halep (which I wrote):

"Halep played almost exclusively WTA Tour events in 2011."
"Halep maintained a steady ranking throughout 2012, rising no higher than No. 37, falling no lower than No. 63, and finishing the year at No. 47 for the second consecutive year."
"Halep had a slow start to the year, only winning multiple matches at a tournament once before May."
"Halep greatly improved her Grand Slam results in 2014. "
"Halep had a strong start to 2015, reaching at least the quarterfinals in her first six events."

With Milos Raonic (which someone else wrote):

"After turning professional in September 2008 until the end of 2010, Raonic played both singles and doubles, primarily at ITF Futures and ATP Challenger tournaments."
"The first two months of 2011 represented a significant breakthrough for Raonic, as he rose from No. 156 at the beginning of January to No. 37 by the end of February."
"His only significant result in the latter half of 2011 after returning from injury was a semifinal appearance at the Stockholm Open, where he lost to Gaël Monfils."
"Raonic began 2012 with titles in two of his first three tournaments, starting with his second ATP title at the Chennai Open in India."
"In all four 2013 Grand Slam tournaments, Raonic matched his previous best result."
"He was one of just three players to reach the quarterfinals or better at seven of the nine ATP 1000 tournaments.[129] Raonic finished with a career-high total of 1107 aces in 2014. At the time, this was the fifth highest single-year ace total in history."

I'll review the article section-by-section after the summaries are addressed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 09:11, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sportsfan77777, thank you for starting this review. I am out of town right now but will respond to these initial comments by 23 December. Best, Riley1012 (talk) 01:23, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no rush! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 03:46, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sportsfan77777, sorry for the delay. I have added some summaries and tried to improve the flow. I appreciate your feedback thus far and look forward to the rest of the review. -Riley1012 (talk) 21:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

It is more typical to keep accomplishments out of the first sentence (i.e. just end it after "Brazilian artistic gymnast" and put the rest in the next sentence or later)

Per WP:CITELEAD, take out the references from the lead and move them to the body if they aren't there already. The first one is fine, though.

Is it worth extending to two paragraphs? I thought you did a good job with the multi-paragraph lead for Larisa Iordache.

I decided to go ahead and add a second paragraph. Riley1012 (talk) 19:18, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

She is one of eight children of a single mother, and her mother cleaned houses and walked to work in order to pay for Rebeca's training. <<<=== Split in two sentences (or group the first part of the sentence with the previous sentence) to avoid parallelism issues.

Is it possible to expand this section?

I've added some additional information that I found. Riley1012 (talk) 19:29, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2012

Okay.

2013

If Nadia Comăneci Invitational goes to Nadia Comăneci, then the "Individual" part shouldn't be in the link.

, and she won the silver medal <<< in this type of sentence, you don't need to repeat "she won" if the first clause also has "she won". This comes up a number of times later.

2014

Start a new sentence at "she won the gold in the all-around..."

she won the gold on vault <<<=== "repeat issue" again

she was replaced ===>>> was replaced (same "repeat issue")

2015

she placed seventh <<<=== use semicolon instead

2016

she won the silver medal on the floor exercise behind Thais Fidelis <<<=== use semicolon or start a new sentence

2017

but she did not qualify for the event final <<<=== "repeat issue"

2018–19

but in 2019 she tore her ACL for the third time ===>>> but only was able to compete for a little less than a year before tearing her ACL for the third time

2020

COVID-19 pandemic in Azerbaijan. ===>>> pandemic in Azerbaijan. (pipe the link)

COVID-19 pandemic in Brazil ===>>> pandemic in Brazil

2021

I don't think the subsection headers are necessary since none of the other sections use them.

she helped her club win <<<=== start a new sentence

and she became the first Brazilian gymnast ===>>> becoming the first Brazilian gymnast

on this event ===>>> in this event

In 2021, she was awarded the Brazil Olympic Prize ===>>> She was also awarded the Brazil Olympic Prize

Personal

Okay.

Competitive

Okay.

Overall

I pointed out minor things above.
Besides those things, I think the prose could still be a little better, but maybe for a GA it's fine.

Placing on hold. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 17:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sportsfan77777, I've reviewed your suggestions and edited the article to implement them. Let me know what you think. Thank you, Riley1012 (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks better now, especially the lead! Passing, good work! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 15:01, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I appreciate your help. -Riley1012 (talk) 15:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]